Jail for sex with widow

[smileyman]

Originally Posted by The Chi

My first thought was that HE was married, HH's post confirms it.

What he did was wrong, I agree, but it was also wrong of the widow. She was grieving and on meds, meds that CLEARLY state combining with alcohol is a bad idea. He should never have let himself or her get in that position.

I feel bad for HIS WIFE. She's the ultimate victim here.

Which position? I missed it in the write up....

[fatbuckRTO]

Originally Posted by Trip

the law needs to be challenged to be updated.

Laws don't change in the military the way they change in the civilian world. The only way to change the law in the military is to be a high ranking mofo. The only way to be a high ranking mofo is, generally, to really believe in and support existing military law.

In this particular case, I'm glad. Going to jail for boning a widow is stupid. Going to jail for 90 days for cheating on your wife is pretty close to justice, I think. So long as he still gets raped in divorce court.

I'm surprised at how much was left out of the article I found. It was from a military oriented site, and they didn't even get the guy's rank right, much less the most important detail...

[the chi]

Im with her on this. Having been married to military and immersed in it, cheating is common and sadly, almost expected.

There are actually code actions that individuals can take notifying the general population that the spouse is gone and the green light is on for "come on OVER"!

It's wrong, but it is what it is.

This isnt even remotely as bad as some cases I know of firsthand...like the high level NCO going overseas and fooling round with multiple young women the age of his TEENAGE daughter, or the wife who decides she'd like to start "hanging" out with the men her husband works with while he's gone...it goes on and on, and on, and ON!

[the chi]

Originally Posted by smileyman

Which position? I missed it in the write up....

He spent time with her in a personal manner, going to the gym, taking her to a fireworks show, spending time with her family, almost as if they were dating.

On her part, I can see the reaching out for someone who truly understands, but having her at his house, with no one else there, is WAY across the line. And as a military spouse SHE should also know better. She was endangering his career as well as her reputation.

It has been my experience that if a military member is keeping things above board, his behavior is beyond reproach and even spending time alone with someone in a way that it could be misconstrued is not acceptable.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

Laws don't change in the military the way they change in the civilian world. The only way to change the law in the military is to be a high ranking mofo. The only way to be a high ranking mofo is, generally, to really believe in and support existing military law.

In this particular case, I'm glad. Going to jail for boning a widow is stupid. Going to jail for 90 days for cheating on your wife is pretty close to justice, I think. So long as he still gets raped in divorce court.

I'm surprised at how much was left out of the article I found. It was from a military oriented site, and they didn't even get the guy's rank right, much less the most important detail...

Cheating on your wife isn't a crime against the government or the military. It's against your wife. It's utterly ridiculous to even say someone should go to jail for cheating. At a time when we need good soldiers, we don't need to be sending to jail for banging someone behind his wife's back. That's just retarded.

There is another way to change military law without having to deal with military thinking. Get our new chief to do it, he's pretty liberal I hear.

[the chi]

Originally Posted by Trip

Cheating on your wife isn't a crime against the government or the military. It's against your wife. It's utterly ridiculous to even say someone should go to jail for cheating. At a time when we need good soldiers, we don't need to be sending to jail for banging someone behind his wife's back. That's just retarded.

There is another way to change military law without having to deal with military thinking. Get our new chief to do it, he's pretty liberal I hear.

While I agree to an extent, I believe the original reason for this law was to keep the soldiers from killing EACH OTHER. Like Bob goes to war, he's on the front line, his buddy Jim is with him, they're in a bad sitch, and suddenly Jim feels like confessing that he banged Bob's wife. Bad idea, Bob shoots Jim, then himself before he gets the Dear Bob letter.

Dont you watch The Unit? Commander bangs soldiers wife, sends soldier away to try and get him killed, soldier comes back, decides to kill everyone!

[pickle.of.doom]

Fuckin gay... If anyone needs a little poon, its a Marine. Its not like it was his living commanding officers wife or something. I guess that when a soldier dies, that soldiers wife/husband should be put down, so they never have sex again.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by The Chi

While I agree to an extent, I believe the original reason for this law was to keep the soldiers from killing EACH OTHER. Like Bob goes to war, he's on the front line, his buddy Jim is with him, they're in a bad sitch, and suddenly Jim feels like confessing that he banged Bob's wife. Bad idea, Bob shoots Jim, then himself before he gets the Dear Bob letter.

Dont you watch The Unit? Commander bangs soldiers wife, sends soldier away to try and get him killed, soldier comes back, decides to kill everyone!

Fine just kick em out of the military. Kinda like getting fired from your job when the Boss fucks their employee and gets caught by a higher boss. Putting someone in jail for cheating is totally and utterly retarded.

[fatbuckRTO]

Originally Posted by Trip

Cheating on your wife isn't a crime against the government or the military. It's against your wife. It's utterly ridiculous to even say someone should go to jail for cheating. At a time when we need good soldiers, we don't need to be sending to jail for banging someone behind his wife's back. That's just retarded.

There is another way to change military law without having to deal with military thinking. Get our new chief to do it, he's pretty liberal I hear.

I've been known to make allowances for many an indiscretion when it comes to good soldiering, but if you're fucking your buddies wife you're not a good soldier, in my opinion.

There are plenty of crimes that aren't crimes against the government or the military. And I think adultery is much more of a punishment-meriting transgression than, say, Article 117 (provoking a gesture). As another example, I don't think gays should be allowed in the military; I've argued it often and at length. But I would see the ban on homosexuals lifted long before I'd see adultery legalized.

[fatbuckRTO]

Originally Posted by pickle.of.doom

Fuckin gay... If anyone needs a little poon, its a Marine. Its not like it was his living commanding officers wife or something. I guess that when a soldier dies, that soldiers wife/husband should be put down, so they never have sex again.

I think you missed the article in the middle of the thread that explained that the offending Marine is married. That's my fault, the article I posted was light on pertinent details.