Thoughts on the state of the union

[smileyman]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Wait, you're calling the new guy just in the fucking door, the only one with any new fucking ideas at all, "the clown"?...and not the league of white-haired "good old boys" entrenched in government mismanagement for as long as anyone can fucking remember?

You must be either fucking drunk, or stupid. Maybe you just haven't been paying attention...

No I was referring to Congress. The thing I was getting at is that these guys are supposed to be focused o n solving the nations problems in a way that pleases their constituents, but instead they are trying to please their special interest contributors and their party.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Really dude. So the elected leader of the American Government is stupid...what does that say about the rest of us? Would you take any type of test and compare your scores with his? History, Economics, Math, Science?....

The voting public is generally stupid. You realize who both parties target to get their base votes? It isn't exactly the smartest groups in the country.

I would be willing to do it any day of the week... I am sure Smiley would too.

Originally Posted by Avatard

Only the truly desperate, grasping at straws dare suggest he isn't demonstrably eloquent, and fast on his feet in debate, with NO prompting of any kind. It's just mindless stone-throwing in lieu of substance. He's proven many times to be fast, sharp, and right on target in casual conversation, dialog, and debate alike. Stupid shit like that is really only fodder for the hate squad.

His prepared speeches without a teleprompter or notes have been off the mark on a number of occasions. He definitely has a tick when he is having issues in a speech of using the word "ummm." When he has an idea what he wants to say, he is a very good public speaker.

He did really well at the Q&A.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Eh, I think you're stretching it a little here. The guy pauses and says "uhh" at least 2-3 times a sentence. Granted, he is 100x more nuanced and analytical than W.

I'm much more comfortable with someone that thinks out loud, than someone who doesn't think at all.

JC

[Captain Morgan]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Wait, you're calling the new guy just in the fucking door, the only one with any new fucking ideas at all, "the clown"?...and not the league of white-haired "good old boys" entrenched in government mismanagement for as long as anyone can fucking remember?

You must be either fucking drunk, or stupid. Maybe you just haven't been paying attention...

He has new ideas? Really? What are they, please?

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by Captain Morgan

He has new ideas? Really? What are they, please?

Good point.

His ideas may not be "New", but they differ from the craptapular horseshit we've had in recent years.

JC

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Wait, you're calling the new guy just in the fucking door, the only one with any new fucking ideas at all, "the clown"?...and not the league of white-haired "good old boys" entrenched in government mismanagement for as long as anyone can fucking remember?

You must be either fucking drunk, or stupid. Maybe you just haven't been paying attention...

How is his ideas new? It's the same damn democrat agenda as always. Healthcare? Democrats have been trying to get the momentum for that shit forever. What exactly are we trying to do that's new? It's different than the last administration, but it isn't exactly new.

The government mismanagement will continue til you can get the D and the R gone.

Originally Posted by Captain Morgan

He has new ideas? Really? What are they, please?

lol damn reposted you

[smileyman]

Originally Posted by Trip

The government mismanagement will continue til you can get the D and the R gone.

Yup. It has evolved into something sad.

[Avatard]

Well, it certainly won't be getting any better with corporations now running the campaigns.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Well, it certainly won't be getting any better with corporations now running the campaigns.

That's why we got to get independents in there. Both the D and the R are the party of corporations. Obama had a one in the lifetime opportunity to pull from the younger generation thanks to a very messy previous administration. Otherwise they both rely on large corporations. Would Kerry have been where he was without Mrs. Heinz? I seriously doubt it.

[Avatard]

Good wrapup on this meeting today (covers Smileyman comment):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908...53913#35153913

Olberman's comment at 4:40 is pretty funny.