First ride - Honda CBR 250R

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by smileyman

In stock trim perhaps, on an open long track probably, as the single would lose out in top speed. However on shorter courses with alot of excess weight removed I think it would be a winner.

Um the Ninjas aren't going to be "stock" either...any mods you can make to the CBR can be made to the Ninjas... I don't think thay have tracks that "tight" on the AMA schedule. I'm not sure why they didn't bring the VFR250 back from the dead.

I still think that they should have "one upped" Kawasaki and brought a 400/450 to the table...

[smileyman]

My clubs tracks have 3 tight 1.9 or 1.8 mile tracks. I think the shorter wheelbase, steeper rake, and possible weight advantage would give the CBR an edge.

I was already deep into the Formula 450 GP Singles research. The 450 single engine would be quite a stomper, but converting a motocrosser is big bucks. Hoping up this lil 250 would be cheaper.



as far as Honda is concerned I dont think they want to outrace or outsell the baby ninja. I think this is a place to make back all their single cyl Moto3 R&D...

[defector]

Originally Posted by smileyman

I was already deep into the Formula 450 GP Singles research. The 450 single engine would be quite a stomper, but converting a motocrosser is big bucks. Hoping up this lil 250 would be cheaper.

Maybe you've seen one of these?

[Dave]

Originally Posted by smileyman

My clubs tracks have 3 tight 1.9 or 1.8 mile tracks. I think the shorter wheelbase, steeper rake, and possible weight advantage would give the CBR an edge.

I was already deep into the Formula 450 GP Singles research. The 450 single engine would be quite a stomper, but converting a motocrosser is big bucks. Hoping up this lil 250 would be cheaper.



as far as Honda is concerned I dont think they want to outrace or outsell the baby ninja. I think this is a place to make back all their single cyl Moto3 R&D...

I don't think its gonna have a thing for the ninjette. Double valve area and a broader powerband make much more difference than that slight weight difference. Vtr250 would have been closer, though I think Ps rev a lil quicker than Vs

[smileyman]

That yours Defector? looks awesome. TZ chassis with 4 stroke power??

[defector]

Originally Posted by smileyman

That yours Defector? looks awesome. TZ chassis with 4 stroke power??

Not mine, but I had one exactly like it for a bit. Honda RS125 chassis with a CRF450 engine. Actually bought it for my kid, but decided the SV would get him more track time.

[smileyman]

Thats what I want. I raced SVs and 600s but really want something super light. My best friends TZ250 spoiled me forever to light makes right...

[Rangerscott]

I told my dad about honda making a 250 and it being a thumper. He said maybe they wanted the parts to interchange with their lawn mowers.

[Papa_Complex]

A local guy, who works for Yamaha, slotted a 4-stroke dirtbike motor into a couple of TZ125 frames. They were roughly 240cc and competed in the 125GP class.

[Smittie61984]

I saw one the other day at school. Looked like a good bike.

If my GF ever wanted a bike and I got her a 250, i'd probably just get a Kawi. But I'd also look into safety stuff such as the brakes. I'm not sure how strong the new Ninjas are but the old ninja I rode didn't have great brakes. If the Honda had better brakes then I'd get the Honda.