Some Jackass Thought It Would Be Amusing

[fasternyou929]

Originally Posted by Trip

We are looking for 1000 ft. If you know the zoom, you can get distance to the camera.

Bullshit. You'd be making a guess, from a 2-dimensional photo.

Originally Posted by Trip

Make a guess at angle to the ground that would be close.

Guess number 2, based on zero reference points available in the photo.

Based on these two guesses, you're going to come up with something more accurate than Lee, who estimated one distance, in person, in 3-D.

Originally Posted by Trip

If it is real low to the ground it would be pretty obvious its not 1000 ft.

No shit. Too bad we didn't have someone there on the ground so we didn't have to make all these uneducated guesses from a photo!

Originally Posted by Trip

The guy could easily lose his license over just this incident. So if you are going to do it to this guy, get good evidence that he is actually fucking up.

Like a photo of the tail number and complaints from numerous neighbors?

Good grief man, if you came across any more empty-headed in this thread I'd swear you could fail a CT scan.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by fasternyou929

Bullshit. You'd be making a guess, from a 2-dimensional photo.



Guess number 2, based on zero reference points available in the photo.

Based on these two guesses, you're going to come up with something more accurate than Lee, who estimated one distance, in person, in 3-D.



No shit. Too bad we didn't have someone there on the ground so we didn't have to make all these uneducated guesses from a photo!


Like a photo of the tail number and complaints from numerous neighbors?

Good grief man, if you came across any more empty-headed in this thread I'd swear you could fail a CT scan.

No dumbass, its very easy to get the information you need and if you use a wide range of angles, you can actually make a well reasoned estimate of height.

You could easily get information off the plane itself about scaling, that combined with information from the camera itself aka zoom,lens, and such you can easily determine distance from the camera to the plane. Sometimes you can even get this information from the photo itself depending on what the camera embeds into the digital photos. Some cameras will even embed GPS info into photos nowadays.

Using that distance, you can use a wide array of angles from the ground to that of the photo taken. Then using simple trig based on those two determinations, you can get the height of the airplane

Math is not fucking hard if you aren't a dumbass like yourself.

BTW a person on the ground using his naked eye that has no education on identifying the altitude of airplanes is making an uneducated guess.

We aren't going to be looking for accuracy of inches, by probably tens of feet. Which would be a very well reasoned estimation.

[Trip]

Apparently there are sites where you can do it without doing any of the work too.

http://www.holmestead.ca/chemtrails/digital.html

[shmike]

Trip will solve this dilemma.

The rest of you are just plane dumb.

[fasternyou929]

Originally Posted by Trip

No dumbass, its very easy to get the information you need and if you use a wide range of angles, you can actually make a well reasoned estimate of height.

You could easily get information off the plane itself about scaling, that combined with information from the camera itself aka zoom,lens, and such you can easily determine distance from the camera to the plane. Sometimes you can even get this information from the photo itself depending on what the camera embeds into the digital photos. Some cameras will even embed GPS info into photos nowadays.

Using that distance, you can use a wide array of angles from the ground to that of the photo taken. Then using simple trig based on those two determinations, you can get the height of the airplane

Math is not fucking hard if you aren't a dumbass like yourself.

BTW a person on the ground using his naked eye that has no education on identifying the altitude of airplanes is making an uneducated guess.

We aren't going to be looking for accuracy of inches, by probably tens of feet. Which would be a very well reasoned estimation.

Right, so the accuracy of the zoom used or the angle of view/field won't affect anything. Optics do NOTHING to distort images from reality.

At least misplaced arrogance is amusing.

[Porkchop]

Originally Posted by Smittie61984

uh, on a rant. I just have to go to the Atlanta airport soon and I'm already dreading it and am pissed about it.

Oh fuck that. We waited in the plane, in a line of 23 planes to take off. There werent even delays on planes coming in. We actually boarded a few minutes early. But we waited almost 40 minutes to start taxiing.

Thank god my connecting terminal was only one gate over too...

[Trip]

Originally Posted by fasternyou929

Right, so the accuracy of the zoom used or the angle of view/field won't affect anything. Optics do NOTHING to distort images from reality.

At least misplaced arrogance is amusing.

If we can't get the information from the photo itself and the person doesn't know what zoom they were using or won't give us that information, then yes that would be a huge issue in making a good estimate. Obviously, we would need the info on the optics to make the calculations necessary. we do have the camera, we have the people involved, and we have potential to recreate the event. This problem is easily resolved.

However, we aren't being presented with any information, just a stupid internet story, that's much better than trying to actually solve the problem!

[fasternyou929]

Originally Posted by Trip

If we can't get the information from the photo itself and the person doesn't know what zoom they were using or won't give us that information, then yes that would be a huge issue in making a good estimate. Obviously, we would need the info on the optics to make the calculations necessary. we do have the camera, we have the people involved, and we have potential to recreate the event. This problem is easily resolved.

However, we aren't being presented with any information, just a stupid internet story, that's much better than trying to actually solve the problem!

You just proved my point. Even if Lee posts a picture, he isn't going to send you his camera for forensics. He also won't be able to tell you the exact zoom used, unless he was maxed out in either direction.

Just too many variables. And certainly not worth calling someone's judgment into question.

[anthonyk]

Tens of feet? Maybe my trig is off, but assuming we're not within tens of feet of the aircraft, you're going to have to guess the right angle within about 5 degrees (with no landmarks) to get that kind of precision. A wide range of angles just makes the whole thing worse.

Just do the math using 30 degrees and 60 degrees, and assume you can make out the tail numbers with a camera from 1/4 mile away. It puts the estimated altitude range anywhere from 660 feet to 1120 feet. Further away, or a wider angle spread, and your precision is even worse.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by shmike

trip will solve this dilemma.

The rest of you are just plane dumb.

yeeeaaaaah!