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JoshuaTree · 11-08-2008, 11:05 AM

RE: Jumpstarting from a car - You can use a car's battery to jump start a bike just fine. You want to ensure that the car is OFF, as the current spike from a running car's alternator going into recharge mode (i.e. high output) can have 'less than optimal results' for your bike.

RE: Batteries (In General) - If the battery is the "needs maintenance" type, have you checked to ensure that the water/electrolyte levels are up to the proper marks? A battery may have the voltage necessary to run some lights, but no where near the Amp-Hour (Ah) capacity to actually perform more than one start. Also most motocycle charging systems need the bike to be ridden at least 15-25 minutes to recover ONE "cold start". If you're taking several short trips less than that interval, you'll never fully recharge the battery. Repetitive discharging without recovery, and eventually you'll "kill" the battery's ability to hold enough charge to function. Its also not unusual for some bikes to need a new battery every 18-24 months (depending on their "off-state" current draw, external maintenance charging, etc.).

I'd first pull the battery and take it down to your local shop and have them check it. If you don't trust them, take the battery to a large auto repair shop. They likely have a battery tester that can be set in "powersports" mode that will test a battery that small (e.g. Pep Boys, NTB, etc.).

YMMV...

jeeps84 · 11-08-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by m0n1

Tried about an hour and a half after I got home, it started.
Just tried it again and it didn’t start. It cranked twice and then all I heard was fast tick sound coming from under the seat and all the indicator lights dimming.

That sounds like loss connections. Check, clean. Other wise the battery may be done. Issues like this are most always either operator error by missing a safety feature. In other cases it is one of those components that is malfunction.

Gas Man · 11-08-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by t-rock

Another thing is to never jump start a bike from a car.

As said... it is fine to do with a car off but should not become a regular practice, the car batteries still have a much higher amperage than our little bike batteries.

Allow me to echo what others have said. First and foremost, check the battery. Always start there. Needs to show 12.8volts.

Go to Radio shack and get some contact and board cleaner. They sell a nice can that has a cleaner and lube in it. White can, red print. Cost about $7.

Now as said, check the clutch and kickstand switch. You can do this easily by pulling their harness plugs, using your multi meter (set to ohlms), and by activating the switch it should change from an open to close circuit. Then spray the switching mechanismn and the plug, allow a few mins for it to work in, then plug the switch back in. Do this to both safety switches.

Now when it comes time to check the starter relay, check for the voltage there when the start button is pressed.

Further, may want to check your solinoid connections. I'm not sure about your starter but many times there is a solenoid cover on the end of your starters. This is the mechanics of what happens when you push the start button. Its magnetic. It pulls the contacts into the plunger which draws the power from the battery and activates the starter itself.

Under the cover you will find something like this...

before cleaning and corrosion at the arrows with emry cloth (like 150 grit)

Not done but you get the idea

Your cover may look something like this

Carolina · 11-08-2008, 07:11 PM

idk mine did the same and I just bought a battery tender and charged her for like two days and she was good to go after that.

good luck

m0n1 · 11-09-2008, 01:44 PM

thanks again every one. havent had time to get the things i need yet, but will check everything that has been mentioned by you all.

marko138 · 11-09-2008, 02:35 PM

Don't over look the simple stuff: Make sure your batt cables are tight.

Gas Man · 11-09-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by marko138

Don't over look the simple stuff: Make sure your batt cables are tight.

Truth...

marko138 · 11-09-2008, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Truth...

I've seen alot of fucked up shit from just a loose negative terminal.

Gas Man · 11-09-2008, 04:46 PM

Yes and that means checking both ends of each cable.

marko138 · 11-09-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Gas Man

Yes and that means checking both ends of each cable.

Right.

11-08-2008, 11:05 AM	#11
JoshuaTree DILLIGAF? Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Austin, Texas, USA, Earth, Sol, Western Spiral Arm, Milky Way Moto: 1993 K75SA Posts: 483	RE: Jumpstarting from a car - You can use a car's battery to jump start a bike just fine. You want to ensure that the car is OFF, as the current spike from a running car's alternator going into recharge mode (i.e. high output) can have 'less than optimal results' for your bike. RE: Batteries (In General) - If the battery is the "needs maintenance" type, have you checked to ensure that the water/electrolyte levels are up to the proper marks? A battery may have the voltage necessary to run some lights, but no where near the Amp-Hour (Ah) capacity to actually perform more than one start. Also most motocycle charging systems need the bike to be ridden at least 15-25 minutes to recover ONE "cold start". If you're taking several short trips less than that interval, you'll never fully recharge the battery. Repetitive discharging without recovery, and eventually you'll "kill" the battery's ability to hold enough charge to function. Its also not unusual for some bikes to need a new battery every 18-24 months (depending on their "off-state" current draw, external maintenance charging, etc.). I'd first pull the battery and take it down to your local shop and have them check it. If you don't trust them, take the battery to a large auto repair shop. They likely have a battery tester that can be set in "powersports" mode that will test a battery that small (e.g. Pep Boys, NTB, etc.). YMMV... __________________ "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" "Learn to do the counter-intuitive things that may one day save your ass..." "... Love Much, Laugh Often..." - Amanda Kay Corso (January 18, 1980 - April 15, 2008)

11-08-2008, 07:11 PM	#14
Carolina Says it's time to ride Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Diego, CA :) Moto: 2003 honda CBR 954/ 2011 Road King classic Posts: 1,012	idk mine did the same and I just bought a battery tender and charged her for like two days and she was good to go after that. good luck __________________ a wise man once said if u wipe ur ass with your hand you'll have a fistfull of shit

11-09-2008, 01:44 PM	#15
m0n1 Street Stunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Long Beach CA Moto: 07 R1 Posts: 89	thanks again every one. havent had time to get the things i need yet, but will check everything that has been mentioned by you all. __________________ "The soldier above all others prays for peace, for it is the soldier who must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war." –Douglas MacArthur “Our job as citizens also includes backing our president when he makes a decision, whether we like that decision or not,"- Damion Maynard

11-09-2008, 04:46 PM	#19
Gas Man Trip's Assistant Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Imported from Detroit Moto: 2009 HD Street Classic Posts: 12,149	Yes and that means checking both ends of each cable. __________________ -Chris "Why pay somebody else to fuck up your bike?" Run Amsoil Product