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Old 01-08-2010, 11:33 AM   #1
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Their point is greediness no more. It is unequal punishment under the law. Then again what should you expect from a European government.
I really wouldn't want to see this sort of penalty in North America, but what they're striving for is equitable punishment under the law. The fine is based on your net worth. It may be unequal punishment in absolute terms, but in relative terms it actually is equal.

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Thats how fast Dave and i got popped doing. Glad we aren't in swisslandish
Up here they would have taken your vehicle and license for a week, without benefit of trial. In Switzerland, if you were a foreigner, they'd hand you a bill at the roadside and make you pay.
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Old 01-09-2010, 02:27 PM   #2
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Bullshit!!! I want equal treatment period. If I get a speeding ticket and a non-working loser gets the same ticket, I don't want him getting a lighter fine. If I work my ass off and make $100,000 a year, it doesn't mean that I should pay more for a traffic ticket.

Some of you applaud this action now because the guy was worth $20,000,000 but how would you feel in court if they hit you with a $2,000 fine while letting the next guy off for $100? It's the same old deal, it sounds good to make the "rich" pay more (fine, taxes, etc) until someone decides that YOU are "rich".

Hell maybe parking tickets should be based on how much the car is worth.
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Old 01-07-2010, 11:22 PM   #3
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Fuck the rich. If I dont have what they have then fuck em in the left knee.
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Old 01-08-2010, 10:36 AM   #4
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Fuck the rich. If I dont have what they have then fuck em in the left knee.
That's basically the attitude that they've adopted.
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Old 01-07-2010, 11:25 PM   #5
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That will teach him to speed...lol

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Old 01-09-2010, 07:25 PM   #6
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To a millionaire, a $400 ticket is a mere road tax.

By making the ticket commensurate with the person's wealth, the discouragement against committing the crime again is proportionate.

This is the theory here, and if the fine is in fact there to truly discourage the offense, then the rationale is valid.

It isn't about socialism, it's about enforcement.
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Old 01-09-2010, 08:50 PM   #7
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To a millionaire, a $400 ticket is a mere road tax.

By making the ticket commensurate with the person's wealth, the discouragement against committing the crime again is proportionate.

This is the theory here, and if the fine is in fact there to truly discourage the offense, then the rationale is valid.

It isn't about socialism, it's about enforcement.
Okay for one, speeding tickets are about revenue, not deterrence! That's a bunch of horseshit! If the gov't really wanted to stop people from speeding, they would mandate 70 mph governors on all vehicles sold in this country and be done with it on the highway. In fact, with GPS technology, mine accurately displays the posted speed limit, they could program a car to not exceed the limit. Now I know that some people would find a way to beat the programming, etc. When those people are caught, put them in fucking jail! Problem solved.

If everyone was treated the same way, even the rich guy would lose his license after so many tickets and go to jail if caught driving without one, again problem solved.
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Okay for one, speeding tickets are about revenue, not deterrence! That's a bunch of horseshit! If the gov't really wanted to stop people from speeding, they would mandate 70 mph governors on all vehicles sold in this country and be done with it on the highway. In fact, with GPS technology, mine accurately displays the posted speed limit, they could program a car to not exceed the limit. Now I know that some people would find a way to beat the programming, etc. When those people are caught, put them in fucking jail! Problem solved.

If everyone was treated the same way, even the rich guy would lose his license after so many tickets and go to jail if caught driving without one, again problem solved.
I changed my mind.

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I changed my mind.

Hey I'm not advocating such a program (I'd be one of the first imprisoned!), I'm merely stating that a solution has been possible for decades. AFAIK GM and all of the other manufacturers govern cars to some extent now. I'm merely pointing out the hypocrisy...
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Old 01-09-2010, 09:17 PM   #10
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I changed my mind.

Goddamn swing voters.

They fuck up everything.

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