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Old 12-08-2008, 10:38 PM   #11
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How is your Buick stock doing? Or Chevrolet? Or Hummer?

Probably counting commercial vehicles, why wouldn't they?
Because a much higher percentage of GM's vehicles are commercial, so it's not fair to compare with Toyota.

Toyota comes THIS close to GM's numbers with mostly CONSUMER vehicles, not nearly as many commerical vehicles, and with only THREE brands (Toyota, Lexus, Scion). That's pretty fuckin impressive IMO.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:40 PM   #12
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29-33 miles per gallon on the highway
The technology exists to be so much better. Use it.
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does Toyota do commercial overseas though? I know Izzuzu and Mitsubishi do... but not sure about Toyota.
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30 MPG is like early-mid 1980's numbers.......Not impressive.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:44 PM   #15
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30 MPG is like early-mid 1980's numbers.......Not impressive.
what kills me is that people see an Escalade that gets in the high teens and they're acting like it's the best thing in the world.

Wake up!!
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what kills me is that people see an Escalade that gets in the high teens and they're acting like it's the best thing in the world.

Wake up!!
0.5 + 0.5

Part of me wishes gas prices were still $4
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0.5 + 0.5

Part of me wishes gas prices were still $4
Produce a current size SUV that gets in the 30's and the sucker will sell like mad around here with the weather we get.

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doesn't the new esclade hibrid get mid 30's? course it's probably 60k+
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doesn't the new esclade hibrid get mid 30's? course it's probably 60k+
no.

20 mpg city / 21 mpg hwy

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REALLY? most hybrids get much better city than hwy... I'd figure at LEAST mid 30's in town...

what a fuck'n waste...
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