Go Back   Two Wheel Fix > General > Off Topic

View Poll Results: Is a home an asset or liability?
Asset 17 56.67%
Liability 7 23.33%
I live in tater's whore of an ex-wife's chlamydia infested vag. 6 20.00%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-14-2009, 05:56 PM   #21
fasternyou929
SFL Expatriate #2
 
fasternyou929's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Raleigh, NC
Moto: CBR1000
Posts: 2,043
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by t-rock View Post
The way I have always been taught (by parents and as a finance major) an asset is something that will gain money for you and a liability is something that will lose you money.
I think you may have misunderstood what they were saying. I paid cash for my bike, which loses value every year. It will NEVER make me money (no matter how fast I turn laps at track days), but it is an asset because it's worth more than I owe on it.

What you stated above makes sense in an "if I sold this item right now" scenario. If it would make you money to sell it right now, it could be viewed as an asset.

IMO, of course. The real definitions of asset vs. liability are actually much less grey than that.
fasternyou929 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 05:57 PM   #22
t-homo
WSB Champion
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Springfield, MO
Posts: 7,146
Default

I will admit, I think completely differently than most people as far as business and finance goes.
t-homo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 05:58 PM   #23
fasternyou929
SFL Expatriate #2
 
fasternyou929's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Raleigh, NC
Moto: CBR1000
Posts: 2,043
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by t-rock View Post
I will admit, I think completely differently than most people as far as business and finance goes.
It's good to think differently, I'll never discourage that.

But I wouldn't encourage using basic financial terms in new, ambiguous ways.
fasternyou929 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 06:00 PM   #24
t-homo
WSB Champion
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Springfield, MO
Posts: 7,146
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by pauldun170 View Post
I own a structure called a house.
In order to purchase this structure, I got SECURED loan.

The value of the home after the loan agreement is irrelevant.
It's mine. Its an asset.


Basic stuff
I consider it an investment at that point.
t-homo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 06:00 PM   #25
anthonyk
WERA White Plate
 
anthonyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Austin, TX
Moto: '01 Aprilia Falco
Posts: 1,041
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fasternyou929 View Post
I think you may have misunderstood what they were saying. I paid cash for my bike, which loses value every year. It will NEVER make me money (no matter how fast I turn laps at track days), but it is an asset because it's worth more than I owe on it.
Actually, it's an asset because someone would give you money for it if you sold it. Totally independent of what you might owe on it.
anthonyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 06:00 PM   #26
t-homo
WSB Champion
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Springfield, MO
Posts: 7,146
Default

Has anyone ever read Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki? If so, my mindset is closer to his than normal.
t-homo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 06:01 PM   #27
pauldun170
Serious Business
 
pauldun170's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: New York
Moto: 1993 ZX-11 2008 CBR1000rr
Posts: 9,723
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fasternyou929 View Post
It's good to think differently, I'll never discourage that.

But I wouldn't encourage using basic financial terms in new, ambiguous ways.
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave View Post
feed your dogs root beer it will make them grow large and then you can ride them and pet the motorcycle while drinking root beer
pauldun170 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 06:02 PM   #28
Homeslice
Elitist
 
Homeslice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Moto: Gix 750
Posts: 11,351
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fasternyou929 View Post
it is an asset because it's worth more than I owe on it.
Even if it wasn't, it's still an asset.

Your bike is an asset, and your loan on it is a liability. They both exist simultaneously. Your bike isn't prevented from being an asset just because you have a liability (loan) on it.
Homeslice is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 06:05 PM   #29
pauldun170
Serious Business
 
pauldun170's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: New York
Moto: 1993 ZX-11 2008 CBR1000rr
Posts: 9,723
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by t-rock View Post
Has anyone ever read Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki? If so, my mindset is closer to his than normal.
Finance majors...



Kiyosaki is an asshat.
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave View Post
feed your dogs root beer it will make them grow large and then you can ride them and pet the motorcycle while drinking root beer
pauldun170 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-14-2009, 06:09 PM   #30
t-homo
WSB Champion
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Springfield, MO
Posts: 7,146
Default

Ok so I guess the question I was trying to get at is a little more complex.


When you buy a home, you take on the house as an asset and the mortgage and related fees as liabilities. I think we all agree on this. Which one out-weighs the other in long term and/or short term?
t-homo is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:41 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.