DDM HID install GENII Busa - Page 3

Trip · 10-05-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RACER X

"HIDs require 6 amps of current in an instantaneous draw"

I have the same model as you and just proved that this is a lie. I need a better meter to find out what the max is, I blew the fuse in my ammeter because it can only tolerate a 10A max trying to fire the ballast, which never fired.

Kerry_129 · 10-05-2009, 06:11 PM

I don't understand why it would have Imax=15A (presumably per side, so 30A total?) on the case sticker then.

I have been considering a set of the H4 hi/low for my VFR for a while now, so I went ahead & called DDM and talked with one of their tech guys. He said that he didn't know the actual max. current draw, but did state that though direct battery connection was best, it wasn't necessary & many customers have powered theirs directly from the headlight circuit with no problems (doesn't mean that some haven't had problems, however). He also said that a time delay wasn't necessary, though it couldn't hurt to reduce the cycling, as long as you didn't turn them on/off repeatedly in a short time. Seems like my info/assumptions are old and/or pertains to retrofitting OE Phillips ballasts (I looked into that about 3 years ago). My speculation is that the DDM units 'choke' the inrush current to eliminate/minimize the resulting problems? I think I may go ahead with a H4 hi/low kit (which includes a battery harness/relay), and I'll probably still install a timer, just 'cus that's what seems 'right' & best to me.

RACER X · 10-05-2009, 10:54 PM

well i plan to keep the bike over 2 yrs, and i'm not so worried about a battery every 2 yrs. but i;d hate for it to mess w/ all the electronics these bikes have nowadays. engine mode and FI primarily.

?, if i get the wiring harness that comes straight off the battery, you think i still need a timer relay? i wouldn;t think so cuz it;s coming straight off the batt.

Trip · 10-05-2009, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RACER X

well i plan to keep the bike over 2 yrs, and i'm not so worried about a battery every 2 yrs. but i;d hate for it to mess w/ all the electronics these bikes have nowadays. engine mode and FI primarily.

Yeah, it's better to hook these to the battery directly just to be safe. Something like the ballasts are better to keep seperate from wiring harness, but I have never heard of anyone smoking their harness yet. You really never know til it happens to you though.

marko138 · 10-05-2009, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip

Yeah, it's better to hook these to the battery directly just to be safe. Something like the ballasts are better to keep seperate from wiring harness, but I have never heard of anyone smoking their harness yet. You really never know til it happens to you though.

I know some Buells that have melted their stock connector on the harness without a relay.

Amber Lamps · 10-05-2009, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip

Yeah, it's better to hook these to the battery directly just to be safe. Something like the ballasts are better to keep seperate from wiring harness, but I have never heard of anyone smoking their harness yet. You really never know til it happens to you though.

Now that's the truth!!! It's funny because I got the battery harness. Oh well, I hope that it works out for you big guy!

RACER X · 10-06-2009, 01:26 PM

DDM says it's up to me, to keep the receipt from the purchase, cuz they ask for it on their RMA form.

i may just buy a set of bulbs, and basically have 1 on the car and 1 backup they're only like $25/set.

kinda sucky cuz they've over a yr old......and i dunno if i can find the old receipt.

RACER X · 10-07-2009, 01:57 PM

so i was at trips fav. store pickin up some stuff.

i had read on the busa board, diff members trying a diff startup sequence which the light would only turn ON after the bike was started

i did it 3-4 times, and i can't figure out the proper sequence. so i left

i noticed that my clock had reset.

so now i plan to wire up a harness that a friend has AND put the timer in..

10-05-2009, 06:11 PM	#2
Kerry_129 Semi-reformed Squid Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 531	I don't understand why it would have Imax=15A (presumably per side, so 30A total?) on the case sticker then. I have been considering a set of the H4 hi/low for my VFR for a while now, so I went ahead & called DDM and talked with one of their tech guys. He said that he didn't know the actual max. current draw, but did state that though direct battery connection was best, it wasn't necessary & many customers have powered theirs directly from the headlight circuit with no problems (doesn't mean that some haven't had problems, however). He also said that a time delay wasn't necessary, though it couldn't hurt to reduce the cycling, as long as you didn't turn them on/off repeatedly in a short time. Seems like my info/assumptions are old and/or pertains to retrofitting OE Phillips ballasts (I looked into that about 3 years ago). My speculation is that the DDM units 'choke' the inrush current to eliminate/minimize the resulting problems? I think I may go ahead with a H4 hi/low kit (which includes a battery harness/relay), and I'll probably still install a timer, just 'cus that's what seems 'right' & best to me. Last edited by Kerry_129; 10-05-2009 at 06:13 PM..

10-05-2009, 10:54 PM	#3
RACER X AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Richmond, Tx Moto: '10 Tuono Factory Posts: 4,569	well i plan to keep the bike over 2 yrs, and i'm not so worried about a battery every 2 yrs. but i;d hate for it to mess w/ all the electronics these bikes have nowadays. engine mode and FI primarily. ?, if i get the wiring harness that comes straight off the battery, you think i still need a timer relay? i wouldn;t think so cuz it;s coming straight off the batt. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ 2014 GROM! 181cc of FURY 2010 Aprilia Tuono Factory - SOLD 2009 SFV Gladius - SOLD 2008 Hayabusa - SOLD.

10-06-2009, 01:26 PM	#7
RACER X AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Richmond, Tx Moto: '10 Tuono Factory Posts: 4,569	DDM says it's up to me, to keep the receipt from the purchase, cuz they ask for it on their RMA form. i may just buy a set of bulbs, and basically have 1 on the car and 1 backup they're only like $25/set. kinda sucky cuz they've over a yr old......and i dunno if i can find the old receipt. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ 2014 GROM! 181cc of FURY 2010 Aprilia Tuono Factory - SOLD 2009 SFV Gladius - SOLD 2008 Hayabusa - SOLD.

10-07-2009, 01:57 PM	#8
RACER X AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Richmond, Tx Moto: '10 Tuono Factory Posts: 4,569	so i was at trips fav. store pickin up some stuff. i had read on the busa board, diff members trying a diff startup sequence which the light would only turn ON after the bike was started i did it 3-4 times, and i can't figure out the proper sequence. so i left i noticed that my clock had reset. so now i plan to wire up a harness that a friend has AND put the timer in.. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ 2014 GROM! 181cc of FURY 2010 Aprilia Tuono Factory - SOLD 2009 SFV Gladius - SOLD 2008 Hayabusa - SOLD.