Erik Making a New Streetbike - Page 4

Dave · 02-19-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikey

I do like the looks of the bike, but I'm not looking forward to what will likely be a very heavy price tag.

I wonder if it will finally be able to compete with the Japanese liter bikes now that it's at damn near 1200cc.

no

Sixxxxer · 02-19-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

no

I hope your wrong.

Be nice to whoop on some jap hardware with some american built muscle.

tommymac · 02-20-2011, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

I hope your wrong.

Be nice to whoop on some jap hardware with some american built muscle.

his bikes were competitive last year and he had decent riders, gotta see who rides for him this year and how they do in testing/developing the bike, as far as homologation I bet they will make some concessions like thye did for foggarty and his bike a bunch of years ago.

Dave · 02-20-2011, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tommymac

his bikes were competitive last year and he had decent riders, gotta see who rides for him this year and how they do in testing/developing the bike, as far as homologation I bet they will make some concessions like thye did for foggarty and his bike a bunch of years ago.

Are you talking about the petronas fp1? Edit, I reread it. Fim has a set of very specific rules laid Out this season to prevent another debacle like That

Dave · 02-20-2011, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

I hope your wrong.

Be nice to whoop on some jap hardware with some american built muscle.

Never happen without major backing, a willingness to adapt and evolve, and a major infusion of tech.

smileyman · 02-21-2011, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Never happen without major backing, a willingness to adapt and evolve, and a major infusion of tech.

why bother comparing ten guys in Wisconsin to Japanese corporate might?

smileyman · 02-22-2011, 11:42 AM

I still blame DMG. They should have never allowed that kind of rule making. They was on the crack. Looking back in retrospect, Erik had to know that Harley had him on the bubble. I think he did all he could to try and get enough momentum to make Harley keep him going. Nothing a good father would do for the Frankenstein bikes he made...

Anyways having raced Jap I4s, and tracked my belt driven, outside braked bike against Jap I4s (600s and 1000s) , I can say without a doubt that it is a capable Highway/Track Day bike and a damn sight easier to live with on the streets. In a true race series, despite what they have done in European competition, no it isn't a proper race platform.

That said I will be first in line for a 1190R, over just about any other 1000 right now 'cause it is different, capable, and righteous dude (not cause it is made in the USA)

Dave · 02-22-2011, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

I still blame DMG. They should have never allowed that kind of rule making. They was on the crack. Looking back in retrospect, Erik had to know that Harley had him on the bubble. I think he did all he could to try and get enough momentum to make Harley keep him going. Nothing a good father would do for the Frankenstein bikes he made...

Anyways having raced Jap I4s, and tracked my belt driven, outside braked bike against Jap I4s (600s and 1000s) , I can say without a doubt that it is a capable Highway/Track Day bike and a damn sight easier to live with on the streets. In a true race series, despite what they have done in European competition, no it isn't a proper race platform.

That said I will be first in line for a 1190R, over just about any other 1000 right now 'cause it is different, capable, and righteous dude (not cause it is made in the USA)

You know what? EBR needs to scoop up some honda engines and slap together a fuel framed moto2 bike with ztl brake. I would support the hell out of that

smileyman · 02-22-2011, 11:57 AM

If they had any money...They will probably waste away what they have left trying to get results in a very disrespected US Superbike Class.

The ZTL didn't work very well. The ZTL 2 did. Like any bike you have to play with pad compound and run good fluid, but what everyone read from stock versions being tested in bike mags it didn't work...

Belt drive works fine at the track as long as you don't have any compromises at the track that would require a change in gearing. It is very flexible with gearing anyways cause it is a twin, you can always find a gear that works, and different length tracks dont fool it too much. You simply have to have a chain driven sprocket for fine tuning it to the last tenth and hundredth on track.

The chassis has a ton of mechanical grip though and good suspension straight from the box. It doesnt have the range of adjustability that the japs have tho. Pretty much find "your" set up and leave it to ride around any problems that the oriental bikes can fine tune for...

A Moto2 entry would need to be lighter, otherwise I think he could go with the concept as drawn..

marko138 · 02-22-2011, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

Let me go on record, IF this bike makes sense I will buy it, seriously, I really like it!

wha...?...I dont even know you.

Oh...and price is rumored to be north of $40,000.

02-22-2011, 11:42 AM	#7
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	I still blame DMG. They should have never allowed that kind of rule making. They was on the crack. Looking back in retrospect, Erik had to know that Harley had him on the bubble. I think he did all he could to try and get enough momentum to make Harley keep him going. Nothing a good father would do for the Frankenstein bikes he made... Anyways having raced Jap I4s, and tracked my belt driven, outside braked bike against Jap I4s (600s and 1000s) , I can say without a doubt that it is a capable Highway/Track Day bike and a damn sight easier to live with on the streets. In a true race series, despite what they have done in European competition, no it isn't a proper race platform. That said I will be first in line for a 1190R, over just about any other 1000 right now 'cause it is different, capable, and righteous dude (not cause it is made in the USA) __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

02-22-2011, 11:57 AM	#9
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	If they had any money...They will probably waste away what they have left trying to get results in a very disrespected US Superbike Class. The ZTL didn't work very well. The ZTL 2 did. Like any bike you have to play with pad compound and run good fluid, but what everyone read from stock versions being tested in bike mags it didn't work... Belt drive works fine at the track as long as you don't have any compromises at the track that would require a change in gearing. It is very flexible with gearing anyways cause it is a twin, you can always find a gear that works, and different length tracks dont fool it too much. You simply have to have a chain driven sprocket for fine tuning it to the last tenth and hundredth on track. The chassis has a ton of mechanical grip though and good suspension straight from the box. It doesnt have the range of adjustability that the japs have tho. Pretty much find "your" set up and leave it to ride around any problems that the oriental bikes can fine tune for... A Moto2 entry would need to be lighter, otherwise I think he could go with the concept as drawn.. __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!