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Old 01-24-2010, 04:52 PM   #31
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Would you like to contradict my "proof"?
I merely asked if there was proof, that doesn't mean I'm a strong believer either way

But now that you mention it, how about a scientific article? The one you posted was just some sportbike website, and I doubt anyone there has a chemistry degree.
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Old 01-24-2010, 04:52 PM   #32
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I always thought it was to prevent the plastic from degrading over time from continued sunlight exposure.
I thought it was to keep the wrist band industry going since people don't wear them very much anymore.
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:08 PM   #33
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Here are a couple product safety sheets from oil companies, and they say to avoid leaving it sit in the sun, but they don't say why, which leads me to believe it could be just because they want to avoid heat buildup or container bursting. So far I haven't found anything saying that it actually degrades from sunlight.

http://www.pennzoil.com.au/downloads...d_Dot_4_AU.pdf

http://www.federalmogul.com/NR/rdonl...P_DOT_4_UK.pdf
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:19 PM   #34
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I thought it was to keep the wrist band industry going since people don't wear them very much anymore.
I stand corrected, however I want proof, possible from a sportbike related website
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:22 PM   #35
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:40 PM   #36
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glycol is used in most street bikes, unless the owner changes it to silicone.

glycol fluid needs to be changed every 1-2 years because of moisture intrusion, not UV damage.

I am trying to find something of substantial proof for or against UV damage as a random sportbike parts website with a simple paragraph on it is not a reliable reference by any means, it's the same as taking someone's word on a forum.
Well, glycols are always recommended to be stored away from UV radiation... Like I said before, I doubt that UV radiation damage is a legitimate reason to use a cover or to not use glycol based fluids. My main reason was service life...Oh and the fact that I didn't like carrying paint stripper everywhere I went. I bought steel braided lines to compensate for the slight pressure loss and it's all good! I'm only arguing against the notion that glycol brake fluid is not UV sensitive. It is because all glycol based products are. I totally recognize that it may take several years for there to be any real damage or loss of performance. I also recognize that the hygroscopic properties of brake fluid will have ruined your brake fluid long before UV rays even if you parked your bike under a sunlamp every night! How about this, Trip....Is there anything on the face of the Earth that isn't UV sensitive to some extent? Hahahahaha!
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:47 PM   #37
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Here are a couple product safety sheets from oil companies, and they say to avoid leaving it sit in the sun, but they don't say why, which leads me to believe it could be just because they want to avoid heat buildup or container bursting. So far I haven't found anything saying that it actually degrades from sunlight.

http://www.pennzoil.com.au/downloads...d_Dot_4_AU.pdf

http://www.federalmogul.com/NR/rdonl...P_DOT_4_UK.pdf

Dude, it says right in your link "Conditions to avoid: Avoid exposure to high temperatures or direct sunlight." It doesn't mention anything about types of packaging. Do not expose the raw product to high temps or direct sunlight.
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Never seen anyone use it at the track. You must be thinking of synthetic.
Exactly, no one use silicone fluid in any type of racing that I'm aware of. BTW all brake fluid is synthetic these days, no one uses a petroleum based brake fluid.
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:52 PM   #39
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Well, glycols are always recommended to be stored away from UV radiation... Like I said before, I doubt that UV radiation damage is a legitimate reason to use a cover or to not use glycol based fluids. My main reason was service life...Oh and the fact that I didn't like carrying paint stripper everywhere I went. I bought steel braided lines to compensate for the slight pressure loss and it's all good! I'm only arguing against the notion that glycol brake fluid is not UV sensitive. It is because all glycol based products are. I totally recognize that it may take several years for there to be any real damage or loss of performance. I also recognize that the hygroscopic properties of brake fluid will have ruined your brake fluid long before UV rays even if you parked your bike under a sunlamp every night! How about this, Trip....Is there anything on the face of the Earth that isn't UV sensitive to some extent? Hahahahaha!

Oh I agree UV radiation can take it's toll on a lot of shit, but I just doubt the use of resi socks as UV protectant because the frequency at which you have to change glycols cause of moisture damage. I am sure true race bikes get more love in the brake department than street bikes as well, so I just don't see UV as a starting point for this fad.

Basically I don't know what started it. It's been argued to death why this started and we always end up in the same place. Who the fuck knows why? LOL
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Dude, it says right in your link "Conditions to avoid: Avoid exposure to high temperatures or direct sunlight." It doesn't mention anything about types of packaging. Do not expose the raw product to high temps or direct sunlight.
Isn't that what I said? I said it says to avoid sunlight, but that it doesn't say why. Could be simply because they want to avoid the bottle bursting or something. It doesn't prove that the fluid actually degrades.
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