Time for a new SUV, what to get?

[Gas Man]

Originally Posted by tallywacker

As soon as a US car maker doesn't produce shit I'll go back to them. There really aren't anything styling or the same build quality as a foreign car. I remember driving a nearly new dodge durango and every button and lever in the car felt like complete junk. I REALLY would like to do buy a US car, as soon as they catch up. Maybe this collapse across the board will shake them up.

Well that's a chrysler... I would rate them below Ford & GM.

[Avatard]

Oh yeah, Chrysler makes utter shit. Worst fucking cars in America, hands down.

It started with the K car, and it's been nearly all downhill from there.

[tallywacker]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Well that's a chrysler... I would rate them below Ford & GM.

I've had GM and I just don't buy ford because my dad would set it on fire when i went to visit. No GM vehicle I've ever had has the fit and finish that my VW has.

[Gas Man]

VW is a different segment. They know how to make some nice stuff.

[wildchild]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Listen... it's simple. I keep a chevy and a ford in my driveway. Why? I have family that work there. It keeps them in jobs and roof over their heads. How would I be able to face my family rolling up in a Honda or Toyota? I might as well take the spoon from them.

Further, I have friends that have foreign cars. You won't hear me knock a Honda car. They make good stuff and I think are above the other foreign cars. But you won't see me own one.

got you beat, I have a chevy car, ford truck and a Jeep. LOL
no toyotas for me thanks. I agree about the Honda cars, they make some nice, I just can't make myself pay money for one.

[wildchild]

back to the original question. I have 130,000 trouble free miles on my '02 5.4 Ford. good maint goes a long way to keeping things going.
if it's a used anything you take a risk that the previous owner didn't do maint.
I do like the Chevy as well.
Stylewise I would lean towards the Chevy. Never really loved the expy although it's not bad by any means.
Only trick I would mention would be if trying out the older Ford, push the little button to switch the trans into tow mode. two wires in the column have a tend to strip and not operate. Not a big deal but you want to know about it. mine is out right now, have to pull the cover off and solder them up.
Ford's 4.6 is a completely useless motor. Don't buy one.
Chevy's small V8 actually felt pretty good and had decent towing.
Ergonomically I like Dodge but they don't seem to have anything with a good track record or towing cap. Although a boat you should be able to haul with any half ton. too many trans issues with dodges also.

[Gas Man]

Originally Posted by wildchild

got you beat, I have a chevy car, ford truck and a Jeep. LOL
no toyotas for me thanks. I agree about the Honda cars, they make some nice, I just can't make myself pay money for one.

Oh yeah I won't bad mouth a Honda anything. They make good shit! But I won't buy one of their cars. Although I think a SC2000 is drool worthy!

Originally Posted by wildchild

back to the original question. I have 130,000 trouble free miles on my '02 5.4 Ford. good maint goes a long way to keeping things going.
if it's a used anything you take a risk that the previous owner didn't do maint.
I do like the Chevy as well.
Stylewise I would lean towards the Chevy. Never really loved the expy although it's not bad by any means.
Only trick I would mention would be if trying out the older Ford, push the little button to switch the trans into tow mode. two wires in the column have a tend to strip and not operate. Not a big deal but you want to know about it. mine is out right now, have to pull the cover off and solder them up.
Ford's 4.6 is a completely useless motor. Don't buy one.
Chevy's small V8 actually felt pretty good and had decent towing.
Ergonomically I like Dodge but they don't seem to have anything with a good track record or towing cap. Although a boat you should be able to haul with any half ton. too many trans issues with dodges also.

This! My last F150 had the 5.4. Nice ass truck! Back seat was freakin huge!



And it did this duty so well I hardly knew it was all back there

[Cutty72]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

This! My last F150 had the 5.4. Nice ass truck! Back seat was freakin huge!

The new ones are bigger yet.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Oh yeah, Chrysler makes utter shit. Worst fucking cars in America, hands down.

It started with the K car, and it's been nearly all downhill from there.

The K-car was cool. I almost bought an 88 for 2200 in mint condition a year ago, but it got sold.

Cheap as shit and easy to fix.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by tallywacker

As soon as a US car maker doesn't produce shit I'll go back to them. There really aren't anything styling or the same build quality as a foreign car. I remember driving a nearly new dodge durango and every button and lever in the car felt like complete junk. I REALLY would like to do buy a US car, as soon as they catch up. Maybe this collapse across the board will shake them up.

The imports in comparable segments are really no better anymore. The Japanese put good parts in the late 70s to mid 1990s after which they started to cheapen out on shit. Today, their shit is just ugly.