War on Drugs: Officially a Failure.

[Rider]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

If the mexican monster is coke does that mean you guys are supportive of the Government legalizing crack and sniff?
Heroin? Acid?

As for just setting up lasers and fucking At-At's at the Mexican border (maybe atomic powered whack-o-mole robots for the tunnel digger traffic) does that mean we are tearing up NAFTA?

No just legalize the natural occurring drugs, weed and shrooms...

The other chemically altered substances can stay illegal.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Rider

No just legalize the natural occurring drugs, weed and shrooms...

The other chemically altered substances can stay illegal.

What does that really change though? The article in the first post of this thread is all about how the war on drugs is a failure. Selectively legalizing drugs keeps the majority of those same fundamental problems outlined in the article in place. Don't get me wrong, looking at it in general what you propose is the form of legalization I support, but specific to the article it does little to fix any of those problems.

[Smittie61984]

Originally Posted by Rider

No just legalize the natural occurring drugs, weed and shrooms...

The other chemically altered substances can stay illegal.

I can't agree with that because it still has the government telling us we can't do something. There are also plenty of "earth" or "God" made things that are extremely deadly and harmful.

I personally think anyone who does drugs such as weed or heroine are idiots. Not because it is bad for you and it'll tear your family apart, but because you are seriously jepardizing your job or potential employment (or schooling) because many companies have drug policies (that don't have to change with legalization). If you have a job that allows you to answer to no one (such as a business owner or a politician) then go for it.

Now those who do think that legalizing drugs (especially weed) will the the answer to all of our problems are living in a pipe dream.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Smittie61984

I can't agree with that because it still has the government telling us we can't do something. There are also plenty of "earth" or "God" made things that are extremely deadly and harmful.

I personally think anyone who does drugs such as weed or heroine are idiots. Not because it is bad for you and it'll tear your family apart, but because you are seriously jepardizing your job or potential employment (or schooling) because many companies have drug policies (that don't have to change with legalization). If you have a job that allows you to answer to no one (such as a business owner or a politician) then go for it.

Now those who do think that legalizing drugs (especially weed) will the the answer to all of our problems are living in a pipe dream.

Many users have chosen self employment over corporate employment for that reason. Furthermore, many many more Corporations as no longer drug screening applicants because of the costs and because they are having to turn away or fire good workers. In fact, my previous company did not do any drug screening....and they were a serious corp/bank.

Eventually, if it is ever legalized, drug screening will all but disappear from the employment scene.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Eventually, if it is ever legalized, drug screening will all but disappear from the employment scene.

As I have posted before, not only do I disagree that it will be reduced, I think it will be increased. My belief is that workers comp insurance will require increased screening, especially in "hazardous" work environments.

[dubbs]

Originally Posted by Smittie61984

Now those who do think that legalizing drugs (especially weed) will the the answer to all of our problems are living in a pipe dream.

It won't solve all of our problems, but it will solve all of the problems prohibition is causing.

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Smittie61984

There are also plenty of "earth" or "God" made things that are extremely deadly and harmful.

Wouldn't it have been simpler just to say "natural"?

just sayin

[Smittie61984]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Wouldn't it have been simpler just to say "natural"?

just sayin

Yeah, but I always hear the stoners say "God made weed and Man made beer. Who do you trust?" and crap like that. "nature" also made Cobras and I'm not drinking their shit.

Kaneman:
I do believe that many employers are now turning a blind eye. At my company they give "random" drug tests to people they know don't do drugs which basically leaves it up to me and one other guy but most guys I work with are ex-cons.

However, many companies are wanting to turn people away because they smoke cigarettes (which is their right) due to the cost of employing smokers. I couldn't imagine a company wanting to deal with the potential costs of drug users.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

If the mexican monster is coke does that mean you guys are supportive of the Government legalizing crack and sniff?
Heroin? Acid?

Since the people who use the heavy shit (crack, heroin, meth) are losers, I don't care about their deaths or dehabilitations. Also I really doubt legalizing those hard drugs would increase the number of users that much.

Originally Posted by pauldun170

As for just setting up lasers and fucking At-At's at the Mexican border (maybe atomic powered whack-o-mole robots for the tunnel digger traffic) does that mean we are tearing up NAFTA?

Not sure how NAFTA is going to be affected by border security, unless increased delay time is really going to convince Mexico to throw out the treaty. Doubt it since they depend on our economy for nearly everything.

[the chi]

You can keep the soap box babe, and accuse me of buying into whatever mentality you want. I dont care. I have the proof I need to beleive what I want. Just because you are lucky enough to not have folks that suffer so severely from their abuse of illegal substances doesnt mean it isnt there.

Now back to the more entertaining discussion everyone else was having before you hopped on that box...