Okay, is this any better?

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by goof2

I seem to remember you posting a thread about a Chevelle where you were pushing back against the feedback you received. Enjoy your glass house.

Actually, I remembered that thread rather specifically as I wrote.

I defended what design decisions that lead me to what I designed (because I still like the idea), but I posted the pics for opinions...good or bad, and gauged the reactions accordingly.

IIRC part of the problem with my design for some was that I was "tinkering" with an iconic car that is rarely modded (unlike the Mustang), and a lot weren't comfortable with even the thought of radically customizing one.

I know those tail lights were ON THE CAR WHEN HE GOT IT, and weren't put on by him (so I thought is was even less personal, as I wasn't commenting on something directly from his tastes).

I know you love to poke me, goof, but I don't poke so easy...see, my biggest peeve is hypocrisy...so you may not find me engaged in it often enough to truly satisfy your lust to bust my chops...sorry.

The tail lights scream "PepBoys", and the bug shield belongs on an RV (IMHO).

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Actually, I remembered that thread rather specifically as I wrote.

I defended what design decisions that lead me to what I designed (because I still like the idea), but I posted the pics for opinions...good or bad, and gauged the reactions accordingly.

IIRC part of the problem with my design for some was that I was "tinkering" with an iconic car that is rarely modded (unlike the Mustang), and a lot weren't comfortable with even the thought of radically customizing one.

I know those tail lights were ON THE CAR WHEN HE GOT IT, and weren't put on by him (so I thought is was even less personal, as I wasn't commenting on something directly from his tastes).

I know you love to poke me, goof, but I don't poke so easy...see, my biggest peeve is hypocrisy...so you may not find me engaged in it often enough to truly satisfy your lust to bust my chops...sorry.

The tail lights scream "PepBoys", and the bug shield belongs on an RV (IMHO).

You see a distinction that I don't. Oh well.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by goof2

You see a distinction that I don't. Oh well.

Surprise, surprise... I seem to remember a Corvette picture or something too.... It doesn't matter, I think that his opinions are valid but I'm not sure why they had to be delivered in such a harsh manner or why I had to be ridiculed in the process... Not all styles are for everyone, I know that. There are people on here that ride bikes I wouldn't even consider, are married to women that I wouldn't even talk to, and have kids that I wouldn't even pick to win a dog show but you don't see my posting about it every time they put up a pic....

[Captain Morgan]

Originally Posted by goof2

I seem to remember you posting a thread about a Chevelle where you were pushing back against the feedback you received. Enjoy your glass house.

Originally Posted by Avatard

Actually, I remembered that thread rather specifically as I wrote...IIRC part of the problem with my design for some was that I was "tinkering" with an iconic car that is rarely modded (unlike the Mustang), and a lot weren't comfortable with even the thought of radically customizing one....I know you love to poke me, goof, but I don't poke so easy...see, my biggest peeve is hypocrisy...so you may not find me engaged in it often enough to truly satisfy your lust to bust my chops...sorry.

Originally Posted by Avatard

Tig, I don't don't know what the aversion is that you seem to have to the stock tail lights...this is, after all, a fucking Mustang we're talking about, and in the world of automotive design, the three vertical bars on the tail lights of a 'Stang are about as iconic as shit gets....You don't paint a smile on the Mona Lisa, because the mouth is what's special about that painting...dig? The lights are a defining character aspect of the Mustang's design. I can see refining it, massaging it, tweaking it a tad...but abandoning the iconic "3 vertical bar" thing is a vulgar move, and will never quite look "right" (again, strictly this man's opinion).

Hypocrisy is your biggest pet peeve, huh?

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by Captain Morgan

Hypocrisy is your biggest pet peeve, huh?

Yes, in case you didn't catch it, I identified that fact that both modifications had to do with iconic cars. I'm aware that others didn't like me doing it (in the rendering I submitted previously), and I'm also pointing out why so many people (myself included) don't like the non-stock tail lights, and yes, it's for the same reason, and yes I'm aware.

But...how am I a hypocrite, however? Can you explain that?

[Gas Man]

Agree with Tommy on the dark it out... that would help.

[dReWpY]

You bringing this to the rally??

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by drewpy

You bringing this to the rally??

I might if Pep Boys has a hitch for my car.... I'm probably going to rent a truck from Enterprise. Although, Harbor Freight just lowered the price of their folding, 4x8 trailer to $259...Plus if they'll let me use the 20% coupon. Yea I know this won't be the best trailer ever but I only use one twice a year max.

[Avatard]

I looked at it again (a little harder).

Since the front lights are smoked pretty hard, maybe spraying the tail lenses with that tint shit would make them look 1) less cheap, 2) more matching, and 3) just plain darker, so it's just plain harder to see the insanely busy mirror moonscape going on within the reflector.

Also, since that would really make the front and rear lenses the visually dark "anchors" on either end of an otherwise clean, white car, it emphasizes just how much the bug shield needs to go, as it totally breaks up the front (and front 3/4) lines of the car (the visual flow of all the dark areas...lights, grill, body seams).

A screwdriver, and a can of spray would help a chunk, I'd say.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Avatard

I looked at it again (a little harder).

Since the front lights are smoked pretty hard, maybe spraying the tail lenses with that tint shit would make them look 1) less cheap, 2) more matching, and 3) just plain darker, so it's just plain harder to see the insanely busy mirror moonscape going on within the reflector.

Also, since that would really make the front and rear lenses the visually dark "anchors" on either end of an otherwise clean, white car, it emphasizes just how much the bug shield needs to go, as it totally breaks up the front (and front 3/4) lines of the car (the visual flow of all the dark areas...lights, grill, body seams).

A screwdriver, and a can of spray would help a chunk, I'd say.

Actually, I put these on here.... it had clear tail lights that you all (and I hated) when I got it. I bought these smoked tail lights to make it "better", hence the title of this thread....

http://www.twowheelfix.com/showthread.php?t=13973