Go Back   Two Wheel Fix > General > Off Topic

View Poll Results: worthy of death penalty?
yes 15 53.57%
no 9 32.14%
maybe 4 14.29%
Voters: 28. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-20-2009, 12:35 AM   #61
2up
Waiting for Hello Kitty!
 
2up's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Arizona
Moto: Nothing ATM, which makes me want to cry.
Posts: 810
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Porkchop View Post
BINGO the basic principles of addiction....



2up... would you be in the psychology field? Because your pretty textbook savvy...

But yes, I know 2 girls that were and neither think this type of activity is normal. One is a self proclaimed "sex addict" though, but is not promiscuous about it.
I'm not a psychologist I just play one on the internet.

Actually, while I have studied a decent amount of psychology, most of my knowledge comes from first hand experience (having been molested), having been a coke addict (in recovery for 21+ years), know (off the top of my head) 10 people (male and female) who have been molested, am the daughter of a recovering alcoholic, have known and been friends with countless addicts and remained friends with those who have chosen recovery, and have done extensive research about addiction and have come to find out that porn/sex is to addiction in this day and age, what coke was to the 80's.

I have a great interest in psychology but am too passionate (in the "I don't have enough patience to sit and listen to someone tell me for years on end how unhappy they are and watch them not change it without smacking them" way) to be a counselor.
2up is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2009, 01:03 AM   #62
Porkchop
125GP Champion
 
Porkchop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Worthington, OH
Moto: Empty Garage
Posts: 3,418
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2up View Post
Actually, while I have studied a decent amount of psychology, most of my knowledge comes from first hand experience (having been molested), having been a coke addict (in recovery for 21+ years), know (off the top of my head) 10 people (male and female) who have been molested, am the daughter of a recovering alcoholic, have known and been friends with countless addicts and remained friends with those who have chosen recovery, and have done extensive research about addiction and have come to find out that porn/sex is to addiction in this day and age, what coke was to the 80's.
Would you say its compounding?

My co-worker's 3 years was on thursday. From both alcohol and drugs.
__________________
*Coming soon?
2010 Ducati Monster 696 - Sold
1984 Honda VF500F - Sold
1999 Yamaha R6 - Sold
Porkchop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2009, 08:44 AM   #63
Papa_Complex
Nomadic Tribesman
 
Papa_Complex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Brampton, Canada
Moto: '09 ER-6n
Posts: 11,150
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2up View Post
I'm not a psychologist I just play one on the internet.

Actually, while I have studied a decent amount of psychology, most of my knowledge comes from first hand experience (having been molested), having been a coke addict (in recovery for 21+ years), know (off the top of my head) 10 people (male and female) who have been molested, am the daughter of a recovering alcoholic, have known and been friends with countless addicts and remained friends with those who have chosen recovery, and have done extensive research about addiction and have come to find out that porn/sex is to addiction in this day and age, what coke was to the 80's.

I have a great interest in psychology but am too passionate (in the "I don't have enough patience to sit and listen to someone tell me for years on end how unhappy they are and watch them not change it without smacking them" way) to be a counselor.
I'm not one either, just dated a triple (!) major for five years and was used interchangeably as a study partner/test subject After that experience, I would say that actually studying psych probably breaks more people than anything else. Oddly enough I actually saw more abnormal psych in practise than ever did my poor, sheltered little rich girl.

Addiction is addiction. Over the years I've come to believe that EVERYONE is an addict. It's just that some haven't been introduced to their addiction yet.
Papa_Complex is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2009, 01:41 PM   #64
Porkchop
125GP Champion
 
Porkchop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Worthington, OH
Moto: Empty Garage
Posts: 3,418
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Papa_Complex View Post
Addiction is addiction. Over the years I've come to believe that EVERYONE is an addict. It's just that some haven't been introduced to their addiction yet.
YES... its called motorcycles!!!!!
__________________
*Coming soon?
2010 Ducati Monster 696 - Sold
1984 Honda VF500F - Sold
1999 Yamaha R6 - Sold
Porkchop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2009, 01:59 PM   #65
z06boy
Letzroll
 
z06boy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Lake Norman area, NC
Moto: 07 Red R1 & 07 Blue R6
Posts: 5,265
Default

Voted yes
z06boy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 02:28 PM   #66
anthonyk
WERA White Plate
 
anthonyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Austin, TX
Moto: '01 Aprilia Falco
Posts: 1,041
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ebbs15 View Post
so have you watched jack ass? how about a stunt video where they stunt on public streets? how about watched a pirated movie? if so you should be fined just as much as those ACTUALLY doing the crime, as you are supporting it.
I never claimed that this was some universal truth that must be applied equally across all situations. In this situation, I think both the crime itself and supporting/enabling/providing-demand-for that crime are heinous enough to warrant the same severe punishment. Same as FT BSTRD said about paying to have someone raped or murdered.

In a completely black and white world, I guess I would have to support going after people who watched Jackass or stunting, but the truth is I don't really care about people supporting stupid misdemeanors where no innocent folks are getting hurt. I'm totally comfortable having that double-standard.
anthonyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 03:05 PM   #67
smileyman
White Trash Hero
 
smileyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: NW Arkansas
Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition
Posts: 4,895
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Papa_Complex View Post
Addiction is addiction. Over the years I've come to believe that EVERYONE is an addict. It's just that some haven't been introduced to their addiction yet.
I agree. Whatever triggers the addiction can be just as diverse as the actual addictions themselves although the root behaviors for these mechanisms are basically the same.

Bad stimulus that overwhelms ones ability to cope causes them to fall back into one of there addictions as sanctuary. Alcohol, Anorexia, manic depressive, paranoid Schiz, drugs, sex addiction, ect.

I feel like anyone suffering from addiction will act out that addiction at some point when the factors that lead them to it put enough pressure on them. They either self destruct or lash out and destroy others.
__________________

Arkriders.com
To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!
smileyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 04:03 PM   #68
2up
Waiting for Hello Kitty!
 
2up's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Arizona
Moto: Nothing ATM, which makes me want to cry.
Posts: 810
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by smileyman View Post
I agree. Whatever triggers the addiction can be just as diverse as the actual addictions themselves although the root behaviors for these mechanisms are basically the same.

Bad stimulus that overwhelms ones ability to cope causes them to fall back into one of there addictions as sanctuary. Alcohol, Anorexia, manic depressive, paranoid Schiz, drugs, sex addiction, ect.

I feel like anyone suffering from addiction will act out that addiction at some point when the factors that lead them to it put enough pressure on them. They either self destruct or lash out and destroy others.
Bi-polarity and schizophrenia are mental illnesses, not addictions. While there may be some pre-disposition to addictive behaviours, biologically speaking, the behaviours themselves are learned as coping mechanisms. (Which is a misnomer, IMO 'cause addicts aren't actually coping with anything.) Mental illnesses have definitive biological roots and are not learned.
2up is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2009, 04:17 PM   #69
Papa_Complex
Nomadic Tribesman
 
Papa_Complex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Brampton, Canada
Moto: '09 ER-6n
Posts: 11,150
Default

That's not necessarily true either. Things like schizophrenia, that are potentially caused by chemical imbalances in the brain, have demonstrable biological causes. Not all, or even most mental illness can be demonstrated to have biological causes. I would say that the opposite is actually true.
Papa_Complex is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:34 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.