Resistance was futile....

[derf]

can we debate the superiority of IRS suspension vs live axle after this ?

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by derf

can we debate the superiority of IRS suspension vs live axle after this ?

IRS ownz, live axle blows

the only time live axle might be superior is drag racing.

[VatorMan]

My vette still has leaf springs.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

IRS ownz, live axle blows

the only time live axle might be superior is drag racing.

and drifting. though to parallel what avy is saying theres nothing wrong with irs. the nsx slides just great suspended on 10k/12k monotube coilovers. countersteer is a ton of fun though since the engine is out back and shes the "manly' version with the manual steering rack

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by derf

can we debate the superiority of IRS suspension vs live axle after this ?

The live axle isn't bad in a high HP application, as long as you control hop with ladder bars IME. Until I had ladders in the Chevelle, it was admittedly pretty fucking ugly, though. Changed the fucking car. Made it much nicer.

That said, the IRS on the C4 is just damn nice. You can see in my burnout where I let off as I pass between my truck and garage, and the Vette, which had begun drifting to the right, snaps instantly back into line, with almost no over-rotation whatsoever.

Handles really nice, has great feedback, and not a horrible steering wheel given the fact that it has a fucking bag in it. Like I said, other than the bit of typical convertible cowl shake over rough shit (which can actually get fucking scary sometimes), it's rather nicely behaved. I dare say that the coupe would have none of this bad behavioral trait, and must be dead linear.

...and yes, it has a fiberglass leaf spring in it.

[pauldun170]

My problem with everyone buying automatics (that includes DSG) is that it makes it harder for me to get a manual. Manufacturers build what sells and since manuals don't sell well here....I'm screwed. Fortunately there are still some sticks out there but fucking dealers never stock em.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

My problem with everyone buying automatics (that includes DSG) is that it makes it harder for me to get a manual. Manufacturers build what sells and since manuals don't sell well here....I'm screwed. Fortunately there are still some sticks out there but fucking dealers never stock em.

Exactly. Therefore is it not in our best interest to try and influence others transmission decisions?

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Dave

Exactly. Therefore is it not in our best interest to try and influence others transmission decisions?

You can try all you want, you won't get very far. People want to text/put on makeup/fuck off/multitask in America, you aren't going to make any headway.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Trip

You can try all you want, you won't get very far. People want to text/put on makeup/fuck off/multitask in America, you aren't going to make any headway.

I've already accepted this. Its very unlikely that I'll ever own a new car. Much easier to get what I want by piecing used cars together.

[the chi]

Im not sure about that feature, but the paddle shifting on the steering wheel is horrific. Very rough and not anything close to doing it yourself with a regular stick shift.