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Old 01-17-2010, 11:31 PM   #1
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Default { How To } Reloading center fire rifle ammo

Here's step by step instruction ( with pics ) on how to load center fire ammo. I'm doing .223 target ammo for my Bushmaster AR-15 so there are a few extra steps for precision ammo but the same steps can be done for your hunting rifle. The press is a single stage RCBC Rock Chucker, part of the Master Kit I got about 17 years ago.

No cliffs, details are too important to skim over. Also, safety glasses would be good to wear at all times.

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Here we have once fired .223 brass , a set of dial vernier calipers , primer pocket brushes ( green handles), a primer pocket reamer (black caps on ends), a flash hole deburring tool ( wooden handle ), a reloading manual and in the three green boxes are a set of dies for the .223, a universal decapping die and a set of precision mics ( for measuring overall length of the assembled ammo )





Above is the decapping die with the proper sized shell holder. The base of the cartridge fits in the holder and the pin ( a replaceable part ) pushes out the used/spent primer.



As with all dies, set the bottom of the die so it almost touches the shell holder. Leave about .020 clearance ( the thickness of a paper match pack )



The spent case goes in the holder, the handle is pulled and the pin pushes out the spent primer. Repeat many times.



Now I have 200 cases that have the primers removed. They have NOT been resized yet.



Into the vibratory tumbler



add corncob media and turn on for one to one and a half hours. The basket shakes back and forth and it "scrubs" the brass clean. You can see the parts move in circle from the outside of the basket to the inside on a never ending ride.



Into the strainer and shake. Move the brass around trying to get all the media out.



The media gets into the flash hole. Take a small wire and knock out the media as you dump the media in the case back in the bucket.



Place all the brass in trays to hold them upright and spray them with a lubricant. I like the Hornady One Shot as it doesn't leave a heavy film on the brass.

ALL bottle neck cases must be lubed before resizing or they will get stuck in the resizing die.



Using the resizing die, ( same pic as earlier but different die) place the lubed brass in the shell holder and firmly press the handle down. Then in a smooth action, lift the handle back up.
( if you don't have a decapping die, use this as your first step )

What you have just done is run an expander in the cartridge neck and as you bottomed out the stroke, made the case the correct size to use again. The pin would also push out the spent primer if now done earlier However, the neck is too small now . When you move the handle back up, the expander makes the neck the correct size. :thumbs:

Wipe off resizing lube.



Now we measure our brass for overall length. The .223 brass has a maximum length of 1.760 but this brass is 1.765. Since it's oversize, it must be cut.



This is a case trimmer. One of the four plates hold the case, the pilot fits in the neck and the cutter cuts it. The black collar on the outside is the coarse adjustment and the collar next to it is the fine adjustment.



I've picked the correct size for the case and placed that on the left side pins. By pushing the handle down, you place the case in. I used the allen wrench to put in a .22 cal pilot and brought it against the case. Where the allen wrench is the coarse adjustment. I gently tightened it and turned the fine adjustment 5 lines for .005 of movement.
I took a cut and found I needed to move it another .005 so I did that. Once you're set, just check about every 10 pieces to make sure you are correct.


Now I have the correct cut length of 1.750 ( that info is in the reloading manuals ).I will be using three of the tools shown on each piece of brass.
The chamfer tool is used on the neck you just cut to remove the burr on both the inside and outside. Hold the cutter in your fingers of one hand and the brass in the other. Turn opposite directions to remove the burr.
The wire brush is used to clean the burned residue from the primer pocket. However, I use the cutter to make all my primer pockets the same diameter and depth.
The wooden handled tool is used to remove any burrs from the inside of the case at the primer flash hole.


NOTICE
NOW
is the time you look at your brass for cracks in the neck, bad dents or other bad looking things. If in doubt, throw it out



If you have military brass and you did NOT cut the primer pockets, you will have to swage the primer pocket so you can get a primer in. The correct size swagging button is put in place of the shell holder ( either large or small primer pocket ), the cap is placed and it's run against the stop in the upper die. When the handle is brought back the the start position, you have the correct sized primer pocket.

Now it's time to prime the cases. Go wash your hands with soap and water.
Yes, I am completely serious.
Oil is about the only thing that will kill primers ( not make them go BANG )


I have a Lee hand Auto Primer. It has trays for both small and large primers.
NOTE--- Pistol and rifle primers are NOT interchangeable. Different burn rates, metal hardnesses and heights.

Also, if you don't wear eyeglasses, put on safety glasses.
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Old 01-17-2010, 11:32 PM   #2
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Place the primers on the pan and gently move them around on the grooved surface so they all face up. Place the cover on, place a resized case in the shell holder and while facing away from you, squeeze the handle to seat the primer flush with the bottom.

Failure the seat the primer flush could result on the weapon firing when the bolt closes.



Verify your load by checking a few ( several ) reloading books. There MAY be an error during printing.



I put out ONLY the correct powder for the load behind the scale, in the trickler and into the powder measure. All other powders are on their correct shelf, away from from the scale shelf.
The red item is a trickler. By turning the hollow shaft, it dribbles powder out so you can get an exact load. If you wish to do this but don't have a trickler, use another empty case and turn that to make the charge exact.



Adjust the threaded rod for the correct charge of the correct powder. Make sure you hold the pan against the bottom or it will splash out.

NEVER, EVER use a vacuum to clean up spilled powder. It is possible for a static charge to ignite the powder the vacuum picked up.



I hold two fingers on the trickler to steady it as I bring the charge exactly where I want.

Use a funnel to pour the powder into the primed case. Repeat until all cases are charged.

Work in a specific pattern. I start at top left and move right. Next row down, repeat.



Now verify that all cases have the same charge. A case with missing powder could lodge a bullet in the barrel ( the primer has just enough energy to move the bullet out of the case )





Now you put in the seating die and seat the bullets to the overall length in your reloading manual. If you have the seating die too low, you will crush the top of the case by the neck. Bullet height is adjusted by the threaded rod sticking out.



Check length and finish up.

Be safe , have fun and enjoy
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Old 01-18-2010, 12:00 AM   #3
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Wow, how long did it take to reload 200 rounds? Nice detailed info, but I don't think I'll be reloading my own ammo anytime soon. Not really an area I want to chance making a mistake...
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Wow, how long did it take to reload 200 rounds? Nice detailed info, but I don't think I'll be reloading my own ammo anytime soon. Not really an area I want to chance making a mistake...
I did it over a week. Half hour here and there. I started by depriming and tumbling 200 cases ( that amount works well in the tumbler ) but reloaded 100 rounds.

Probably 4 hours since I take some extra steps for my target ammo.

You do it when you have time and can concentrate on what you're doing. Pay attention to details and you don't have to worry about errors.

Examples, when you press in a primer, you run your finger over it to make sure it's not sticking out.
When you put powder in the cases, you do a visual check to make sure they all look the same.
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I've done it before, definately cheaper than buying new, but it is time consuming.
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I feel like I should be printing this out.

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I've done it before, definately cheaper than buying new, but it is time consuming.
Very cool info, but I think my time is worth more than the money I could save doing this.
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Very cool info, but I think my time is worth more than the money I could save doing this.
It's not just saving money. Buying the best off the shelf ammo for my Ruger MK II in .300 win mag got me 1.3" groups at 100 yards ( on a bench with sand bags )

Hand loading gives me .58" groups.

Also, even though I hand load for all my rifles and pistols ( except .22 rim fire), the ONLY ammo that goes in a weapon for self defense is factory ammo.

The last thing I need is a lawyer going after me because I handloaded "super death ammo" if i had to protect myself or family.
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The last thing I need is a lawyer going after me because I handloaded "super death ammo" if i had to protect myself or family.
Good point.

I would reload for the simple fact that some ammo right now is too expensive to just be shooting at the range to shoot. And can be hard to come by.
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Hey Jeff, what bullet(s) are you using right now? (make/type/grain wt)
So far I've just been testing out factory ammo in my RRA Predator since I'm not really set up to do hand loads yet.
I've had pretty good luck with both Prvi Match 75gr HP BT and Wolf Gold, also 75gr HP BT.
Definitely not stellar performance, but for factory ammo it's not bad. (~.70" @ 100 was my best 3 shot group of the day)
Hopefully as our ammo & reloading supply drought comes to an end I can get the stuff I need to run some decent loads.
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