motogp fun with numbers. the yamaha m1

Dave · 01-11-2011, 12:51 AM

did vale really fix it? or is his skill thus that hes simply gathering credit? removing his talent from the field paints some interesting pictures.

carb'ed five valve screamer

FI five valve screamer

fi four valve crossplane

smileyman · 01-11-2011, 10:59 AM

Burgess fixed it with Rossi's endorsement via very willing Yamaha engineers. They swallowed their pride and developed it exactly as the super duo asked, and reaped the rewards...

Dave · 01-11-2011, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

Burgess fixed it with Rossi's endorsement via very willing Yamaha engineers. They swallowed their pride and developed it exactly as the super duo asked, and reaped the rewards...

Right but look at some of the mortals. Checha went backwards, no one else even showed up until edwards got there, and he was probably just happy to be away from playing marshmellow on the rs3. I'm not even counting max who took a credible 2nd on his one year with the bike.

Even then, can we really credit vr for the crossplane layout if jb made the suggestion from things he learned crewing for doohan? Things that make you go hmm

smileyman · 01-11-2011, 11:22 AM

I certainly would not credit Rossi for the cross plane. The feedback that inspired Burgess to seek a different solution from Yamaha definitely, and of course he did ride the thing they built.

Dave · 01-11-2011, 11:39 AM

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I certainly would not credit Rossi for the cross plane. The feedback that inspired Burgess to seek a different solution from Yamaha definitely, and of course he did ride the thing they built.

Heh to hear some of his fans on crash he dug raw minerals from the earth and forged it into a championship winning bike with his bare hands. Just no reasoning with those people.

I can't wait to see him go to superbikes. You know, where actual racing occurs

I'll bet he gets a ben spies style "welcome to sbk mate" bump off track on turn one

smileyman · 01-11-2011, 12:09 PM

Rossi knows the score in WSBK. He'll go to F1 or Rally when his Duc contract is over...

anthonyk · 01-11-2011, 01:56 PM

I'd say it was a combination of both. A bit of development and a crapload of skill resulted in those first couple of titles. Continued development over the years resulted in Yamaha taking several constructor's championships.

Dave · 01-11-2011, 02:05 PM

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I'd say it was a combination of both. A bit of development and a crapload of skill resulted in those first couple of titles. Continued development over the years resulted in Yamaha taking several constructor's championships.

Ahh but if he wasn't in the picture that bike could have taken the title in its first year...

anthonyk · 01-11-2011, 03:40 PM

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Ahh but if he wasn't in the picture that bike could have taken the title in its first year...

Maybe so... But would Max have been inspired to ride so hard if Vale wasn't bugging the shit out of him?

Dave · 01-11-2011, 03:49 PM

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Maybe so... But would Max have been inspired to ride so hard if Vale wasn't bugging the shit out of him?

Four 250gp titles say yes

01-11-2011, 12:51 AM	#1
Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	motogp fun with numbers. the yamaha m1 did vale really fix it? or is his skill thus that hes simply gathering credit? removing his talent from the field paints some interesting pictures. carb'ed five valve screamer FI five valve screamer fi four valve crossplane fi four valve crossplane __________________ TWF Post whore #6

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smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Burgess fixed it with Rossi's endorsement via very willing Yamaha engineers. They swallowed their pride and developed it exactly as the super duo asked, and reaped the rewards... __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

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smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	I certainly would not credit Rossi for the cross plane. The feedback that inspired Burgess to seek a different solution from Yamaha definitely, and of course he did ride the thing they built. __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

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smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Rossi knows the score in WSBK. He'll go to F1 or Rally when his Duc contract is over... __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

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01-11-2011, 01:56 PM	#7
anthonyk WERA White Plate Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Austin, TX Moto: '01 Aprilia Falco Posts: 1,041	I'd say it was a combination of both. A bit of development and a crapload of skill resulted in those first couple of titles. Continued development over the years resulted in Yamaha taking several constructor's championships.