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02-19-2009, 10:14 PM | #1 | ||
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Ashe Co, NC (Near Boone)
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929 CCT.....mod or aftermarket??
OK guys/gals, I have this dilema. I have been researching my bike since before I bought it and this is one thing that constantly comes up about them.......Replace the CCT before it lets go and ruins the head. I have no noise in the engine at present but I also don't want to worry with it when it's nice and warm out when I could be riding instead of wrenching. I have heard buy the APE, buy the APE, buy the APE, and so on. I have also seen and heard about this:
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HT929 875-427 EC631 875-756 Now I am a Tech by trade but I work on cars for a living....not bikes. I have worked on bikes before on my own and helping others out and to be honest, other than being completely jammed into a very tight frame, they are basicaly a four cylinder car engine (I guess you could say that a car engine was really a bike engine in disguise ). Really though, I have heard guys put down the bolt in the stock tensioner method, but to me that just seems logical and like something that I would do. I also think that it would work very well with no future problems because of the addition. If you look at the APE tensioner, it's nothing more than a damn bolt with a machined head on it that is smooth and flat, two nuts an o-ring and a billet block. Now I know it's only $50 for one from APE but that's $50 I could put towards something else if I fixed it with the bolt method described above. I would like to hear your thoughts on this and any and all input that you have, especially if you have done this mod, or one of this type before.
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02-19-2009, 10:27 PM | #2 |
too much time on my hands
Join Date: Jul 2008
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I did the bolt through stock CCT before. its really easy. let me know what yours looks like, I MAY have one that works. its out of an F2 motor, but yeah.
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02-19-2009, 10:47 PM | #3 |
flyin high
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: cali
Moto: 10speed huffy w/cards in the spokes
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i didnt bother reading much past the fact that its a spring loaded tensioner. ape unit looks nice, but its basically a really nice version of a bolt thru stock tensioner idea. dont matter which u end up doin, u get the same result if done right-a manual tensioner.
check the tensioner whenever you check valve clearance-cant take the cams out(if you need to change shims) without backing off/taking off the cct anyway.
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02-19-2009, 10:47 PM | #4 |
Chaotic Neutral
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Cherry Hill NJ
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hrm, this is something that i had been concerned about but hadnt really looked into before. all things considered, i'll probably go the APE route. price isint too awful, has a nice bling factor, and its another collection of letters for me to add to her resume when it comes time for her to find a new home.
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02-20-2009, 07:28 AM | #5 |
Nowhere Man
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If your engine is not making noise, I wouldn't worry about it until it does. When it does, you've done the research.
--------- After the second stock CCT went south and and the cam chain sounded like metal chewing metal, I put an APE in my 600F4i. I set it up per the instructions, such as they were and it was loose as hell. I had to invent a wrench to adjust it with, since once it is down in there and the bike is back together, access to it on my bike is zilch. I am more nervous about getting it too tight than a little loose and consistently leave it too loose. I've tightened it a couple of times since I put it in. I need to give it about a 1/4 turn more, and it should be good. I don't know anyone around here who has modified a stock CCT. I do know people who run 8 sec drag bikes making about 300HP and none of them trust their engines to a stock CCT, modified or not. What do they use? Proven parts... APE. Another stock, used engine costs about a $1000.00 and I figure the APE M-CCT is about $950 less. word |
02-20-2009, 04:38 PM | #6 |
Canyon Carver
Join Date: Nov 2008
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I used the APE onmy F2 and F3 they work. Beware if you over tighten it will cause the rubber slider to wear and the bits of rubber will block off your oil pick-up. I saw this on GSXR that was in the shop my friend was the manager of.
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02-21-2009, 08:48 AM | #7 |
Nowhere Man
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Exactly why I am nervous about getting it too tight.
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