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Old 02-28-2011, 08:21 PM   #1
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First, let me mention that this Victory Police Motorcycles enterprise was not born at the Polaris headquarters, but from the initiative of a Victory Dealer in Tucson Arizona (Nita Buckner and Mike Shultz) with the support of a motor officer named Shawn Ramsey. Here is the story.

2007, the Tucson Law Enforcement Cycle Fest and Swap meet was held in downtown Tucson. Public is invited to watch the riding skills of Tucson’s finest police officers. 4 new Victory are lent for the officers to ride against the Kawasaki 1000’s and Harley Davidson Road Kings. Instantly they love the easy handling, performance and reliability and inquire as to why Victory had never offered a Police Motorcycle.

They talked about the possibility but nothing was done immediately. Later, Mike Shultz contacted Victory and inquired as to the possibility of entering the Police Motorcycle business with the Victory Kingpin motorcycle. Victory promptly provided Arizona Victory with a new Victory Kingpin in which to convert for Police use.

More than 3 years later and after a tremendous number of hours, meetings, surveys and information gathering from Motor Officers not only in Tucson but from around the U.S., the Police Victory Kingpin was built and 3 models are now available: The Enforcer (top picture), the Commander 1 with fairing and the Commander 2 with windshield. Both models come standard with largest in class 106 cubic inch V Twin producing 97 horsepower (4500 rpm) and best 119 ft/lbs of torque (3200 rpm). Coupled with a 6 speed, true overdrive constant mesh transmission, right hand drive with carbon fiber reinforced drive belt. The new company is already offering to Police Departments around the country complete turn-key solutions (bike is delivered with lights, siren, radio, crash bars, etc) and is ready for duty on delivery day.
For more info, see Cyril &/or Vics links above.

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Old 02-28-2011, 08:26 PM   #2
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1) Good looking police bike! It'll find favor with the HD crowd that doesn't want any of the other choices (i.e. non-cruiser style police bike)

2) Its DOA if it doesn't have ABS brakes. As an officer protection / injury liability containment issue, ABS brakes are all but required now.

3) If the alternator isn't at least 700W, then its also DOA. The assortment of radios, cameras, information systems now being slathered over police bikes require LOTS of power from the charging system. A few departments are even fitting rolling radar units on the bikes.
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Looks cool for a police bike, but really someone needs to start producing criminals bikes so we can go riding around playing cops and robbers.
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Old 02-28-2011, 08:46 PM   #5
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My question would be cost. HD usually leases their police bikes to depts for damn near free. I know when my home town got their first set... they were only charged $1 a month! or somin like that..

EDIT: I see Vic is trying to do the same type of deals... and it's not exactly $1 a month, it seems there are a few options for lower costs.
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Similarly...i saw a cruiser run from the state police last night.
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Our bike cops get BMWs and they are superior in every way to their previous HD bikes,according to them. My company does all the lights, sirens, radar, etc...
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Our bike cops get BMWs and they are superior in every way to their previous HD bikes,according to them. My company does all the lights, sirens, radar, etc...
I have also talked to local cops who have experienced both the HD and the (I Think it was) the FJR police bikes, and they also say that the FJR was superior in every way possible, handling, power, comfort. I'm sure that the BMWs are pretty good too as are the newer connie police bikes, and some of the other japanese ones that are popular.
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I have also talked to local cops who have experienced both the HD and the (I Think it was) the FJR police bikes, and they also say that the FJR was superior in every way possible, handling, power, comfort. I'm sure that the BMWs are pretty good too as are the newer connie police bikes, and some of the other japanese ones that are popular.
I can say, after riding the RTP for two years now, that bike is a f'in beast. Beast, meaning the acceleration is absolutely dreamy - ABS stops it under almost any condition - and flickable. The location of all the controls makes it EASY to get to everything, including lights/siren and heated grips/seat.

I rode Victory's full line last fall and had very few nice things to say about what they had put together. They had many of the same features, but their controls were complicated and not well thought out. Add that to the lumbering difficult to maneuver heavy bikes and it was a lose/lose for me.
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It looks fun to ride at least...
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