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Old 11-11-2009, 12:26 PM   #21
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This is not in offense to you, because Ive heard this so many times over the years. But that is a fairly ignorant statement. I spent most of my life from 16-30 in the auto service biz. I worked for every GM line except Caddy, worked for an independent for a long time that serviced all Jap and American line autos and worked for a high end Euro independent that service Jag, Benz, BMW, Ferrari, Maserati, and many others. And I can assure you. EVERY single manufacturer Ive ever come across has built and designed their fair share of dog shit cars. Every one of them. And everyone of them have also built some GREAT cars.
Well of course. European cars are no more reliable than American, in fact I'd say overall they are worse. But if you compare Japanese to American, well.......The Japanese usually insist on higher specs from their parts suppliers.
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:10 PM   #22
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i have an 87 daytona they have never failed. Not even once. My 89 used to have the manual crank drift to one side and stop the lights but that was easily fixed
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:35 PM   #23
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had my celica for a few years the lights always failed me.

The lights would pop up to random points every time, sometimes I could see where I was driving, sometimes I would look at the trees and sky, and sometimes i wouldn't look at anything
I was super lucky in that I NEVER had problems with the pop ups on my Celica (it was an '86 - had it from about 1991 to 1995)... but I know I was one of the few lucky ones.
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Old 11-11-2009, 03:18 PM   #24
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I have popups on my C4. I love them. I still get a thrill when I turn on the headlights.

I've always loved hidden headlights on a car.

1969 SS/RS Camaro FTW.
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:53 PM   #25
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I have popups on my C4. I love them. I still get a thrill when I turn on the headlights.

I've always loved hidden headlights on a car.

1969 SS/RS Camaro FTW.
Yep I love the late 60's Camaro's with the hidden headlights.

I've owned 4 Vettes...1972...1978...1995 and my current 2002 and so far I've never had an issue with pop-ups.


A Mitsubishi Starion Turbo I owned had an issue with one of them.
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Old 11-12-2009, 02:52 PM   #26
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had my miata for ? ~10yrs lights never failed me........
The lights and motors don't actually fail, it's the cheap plastic gear inside the motors. The plastic isn't strong enough for the job, and the gears inevitably strip. The headlights usually still work, but make a horrible noise when being raised or lowered.

Like I said, there is a guy who makes brass gears for them. I'll probably give that a shot when I get back to the States. With that done, they should be problem-free forever.
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Old 11-12-2009, 03:06 PM   #27
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The lights and motors don't actually fail, it's the cheap plastic gear inside the motors. The plastic isn't strong enough for the job, and the gears inevitably strip. The headlights usually still work, but make a horrible noise when being raised or lowered.

Like I said, there is a guy who makes brass gears for them. I'll probably give that a shot when I get back to the States. With that done, they should be problem-free forever.
Unless it is a C3 corvette, then it is the vaccuum tubes that usually cause the problem.
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:00 PM   #28
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Unless it is a C3 corvette, then it is the vaccuum tubes that usually cause the problem.


I think you mean vacuum lines (hoses).
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Old 11-12-2009, 04:19 PM   #29
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I think you mean vacuum lines (hoses).
lol, I was at a loss for words.
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Old 11-14-2009, 08:40 PM   #30
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I think pop-ups are cool, I've had 2 cars with them, and I think it's cool having something at the end of the hood to look at while you're driving (kind of like a hood ornament, which kinda helps you "point" the car). This is the main reason I'm dissapointed with the C6 Corvette, they ditched the pop-ups and installed those ugly beady-eyes. They remind me of all the teenagers who take their cheap hatchback and replace their stock headlights with a "kustom" beady-eye kit.
Yes I think you are the only one that likes them.

I had them on my Firebird but I wouldn't say I loved them. Didn't hate them (other then when detailing the car. You detail the car then drive that night and thats when you remember that you didn't wash the lights and they are covered in bugs. I like it a bit when you first turn them on because they pop up and when the drop down. Other then that nothing.

What I hate is the blink you get when one doesn't work.

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