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Old 02-13-2010, 03:33 PM   #11
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^^^Liberals want ur guns and Conservatives want ur drugs. If you took away the drugs and gave people guns, you have Class Act citizens without crime. lol
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Old 02-13-2010, 04:20 PM   #12
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Wrong. If you deregulated both, the problems would cease.

Prohibition creates both criminals, and victims.
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Old 02-13-2010, 08:53 PM   #13
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Wrong. If you deregulated both, the problems would cease.

Prohibition creates both criminals, and victims.
That is because people are fucking weak.
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Old 02-13-2010, 09:26 PM   #14
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No, it's because there will always be people willing to pay lots of money for illegal things.

Seeking something illegal isn't automatically "weakness." Some laws don't deserve to be followed, so disobeying them isn't weak. For example, speeding isn't weak.

Drug use is only a weakness if the person allows themselves to become addicted and/or harm their health.

Now, the fact that imported drugs are responsible for violence & murder makes buying them a pretty bad thing to do, but I'd say that's a lack of personal integrity rather than weakness.

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Old 02-13-2010, 09:26 PM   #15
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Wrong. If you deregulated both, the problems would cease.

Prohibition creates both criminals, and victims.
So does addiction which can't be regulated.
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:09 AM   #16
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So does addiction which can't be regulated.


Oh ya? Whens the last time you saw an alcoholic shoot someone for a bottle?

Its not addiction that causes our problems, its our laws.

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Old 02-14-2010, 11:50 AM   #17
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Oh ya? Whens the last time you saw an alcoholic shoot someone for a bottle?

Its not addiction that causes our problems, its our laws.

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It usually isn't "for a bottle", it is over something innocuous like a turkey leg or in the most recent well known case Nancy Kerrigan's brother choked their father to death over using the phone. What law caused that?

We can also add substance abuse as one of the causes.
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Oh ya? Whens the last time you saw an alcoholic shoot someone for a bottle?

Its not addiction that causes our problems, its our laws.

Check out Holland...
Go to any large inner city, someone robbing a liquor store for both money and liquor and holding up the clerk isn't unheard of.
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It usually isn't "for a bottle", it is over something innocuous like a turkey leg or in the most recent well known case Nancy Kerrigan's brother choked their father to death over using the phone. What law caused that?

We can also add substance abuse as one of the causes.
People who kill over using the phone, obviously have more problems than the legality of drugs.


And trip, compare the amount of alcohol related murders, and drug related murders. Im guessing drug related is up way, way above alcohol. (im not talkling dui's either, i mean directly committing crimes for a substance)
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