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Old 03-02-2010, 06:07 PM   #71
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Looks like it was a success actually, it got YOU going.
How? I just dismissed him as a moron.
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Old 03-02-2010, 06:16 PM   #72
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Of course not...he and the prez are tight.
Not since the steering went out in his GM vehicle.
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Old 03-02-2010, 06:21 PM   #73
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Once again I repeat my earlier post...What do you buy? Who do you trust?? Is any OEM recall proof? Is it now a question of how they perform their recalls and stand behind their product?
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How? I just dismissed him as a moron.
Hey he's smarter than I am! I was in that exact situation, I gave my opinion, got called an a-hole for it and instead of just laughing it off like Dave did, I retaliated and was moderated. Heck, I'm taking lessons from him from now on. If I had played it his way, Tracy would be in moderation and I would be the one laughing...
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:06 AM   #75
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Not since the steering went out in his GM vehicle.
Doh !! Good one !!
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:09 AM   #76
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Hey he's smarter than I am! I was in that exact situation, I gave my opinion, got called an a-hole for it and instead of just laughing it off like Dave did, I retaliated and was moderated. Heck, I'm taking lessons from him from now on. If I had played it his way, Tracy would be in moderation and I would be the one laughing...
hey, he calls me stupid and then fails to get a joke everyone else got. ill let you guys do the math
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:19 AM   #77
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Once again I repeat my earlier post...What do you buy? Who do you trust?? Is any OEM recall proof? Is it now a question of how they perform their recalls and stand behind their product?
Yeah no kidding. I just buy what I want and trust for my $$. He11 I just bought a brand new vehicle two weeks ago and if I went just by ratings I would have never bought it...it's one of the worst evidently.

I bought a 2010 Jeep Liberty 4x4. My 99 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 that I traded in had 152k miles and I loved the thing but I would have never bought it if I just went by a few published ratings.

I didn't care for the 03'-07' Liberty's that replaced teh old Cherokee Classic...too much like a chic vehicle imho but I like the redesigned Liberty.
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:30 AM   #78
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Yeah no kidding. I just buy what I want and trust for my $$. He11 I just bought a brand new vehicle two weeks ago and if I went just by ratings I would have never bought it...it's one of the worst evidently.

I bought a 2010 Jeep Liberty 4x4. My 99 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 that I traded in had 152k miles and I loved the thing but I would have never bought it if I just went by a few published ratings.

I didn't care for the 03'-07' Liberty's that replaced teh old Cherokee Classic...too much like a chic vehicle imho but I like the redesigned Liberty.
The Liberty is actually a solid off roader. Compared to the GC. Considering the state of the Wrangler nowadays the Liberty seems like a more attractive option if you need off road capabilty in you daily driver.
I hated the Liberty when it first came out. I much prefered the Cherokee classic especially in 2dr \I6\5spd form and the Liberty just seemed like a bloated attempt to attract certain demographics to the brand. However, I'm a little behind the times. I still call them trucks and threw a hissy back in the 90's when marketing teams started pushing SUV label on the market.

Now that a few years have past, I actually like the old liberty vs the new one.
Sightlines seem better. However that could just be me as a "I don't own one but I see em on the road" type.

I wouldn't buy one though. You'd have to be a moron to buy one of those hunks a shit..
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Old 03-03-2010, 11:39 AM   #79
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The Liberty is actually a solid off roader. Compared to the GC. Considering the state of the Wrangler nowadays the Liberty seems like a more attractive option if you need off road capabilty in you daily driver.
I hated the Liberty when it first came out. I much prefered the Cherokee classic especially in 2dr \I6\5spd form and the Liberty just seemed like a bloated attempt to attract certain demographics to the brand. However, I'm a little behind the times. I still call them trucks and threw a hissy back in the 90's when marketing teams started pushing SUV label on the market.

Now that a few years have past, I actually like the old liberty vs the new one.
Sightlines seem better. However that could just be me as a "I don't own one but I see em on the road" type.

I wouldn't buy one though. You'd have to be a moron to buy one of those hunks a shit..
I agree with "most" of what you say here. I do like the new Liberty better though.


Oh and as far as your last sentence ...Avatard.

*Disclaimer* If that was directed at the 03' - 07' Liberty then please disregard but if directed at me...here's another...
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The Liberty is actually a solid off roader. Compared to the GC. Considering the state of the Wrangler nowadays the Liberty seems like a more attractive option if you need off road capabilty in you daily driver.
I hated the Liberty when it first came out. I much prefered the Cherokee classic especially in 2dr \I6\5spd form and the Liberty just seemed like a bloated attempt to attract certain demographics to the brand. However, I'm a little behind the times. I still call them trucks and threw a hissy back in the 90's when marketing teams started pushing SUV label on the market.

Now that a few years have past, I actually like the old liberty vs the new one.
Sightlines seem better. However that could just be me as a "I don't own one but I see em on the road" type.

I wouldn't buy one though. You'd have to be a moron to buy one of those hunks a shit..
when you say gc you mean the new ones right? My old zj is a pretty decent offroader, not as good as my ramcharger was but hell, what is?

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