Very surprised at how different a sportbike is than a standard

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by KSGregman

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Same...

My riding tastes have changed over the years. I used to be all over the agility...and raw power of a sportbike. Now, I compromise....the M109-R has a more comfortable riding position...but has a ton of power and torque. It gives away agility...but still acquits itself well in the twisties. I honestly still am in love with the lines of that bike too.

That said, though...my mind has been daydreaming all winter of a new Kawasaki Concours 14.....in black, of course...and several motorcycle vacations this year. I figure big changes in life require big changes in riding preferences....and being out on the open road to parts unknown really REALLY appeals to me right now.

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What did you have to do to get the ECU situation sorted with that bike? Buy a new harness altogether? Did it have a title too?

My last bike was a '95 Magna, so this is a big change. The FZ1 started being very uncomfortable to me, and I've owned 4 bikes with very similar ergonomics. Hopefully I'll be comfy on the CBR...but the seat is a bitch.

I bought a used ECU from a local motorcycle salvage place for $200. Popped it in, turned the key and still the fuel pump didn't run. I bypassed the tip (bank) sensor by connecting some wires and she fired right up. Runs like a champ now.

Clear title, in hand, not salvaged...almost too good to be true.

[KSGregman]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

My last bike was a '95 Magna, so this is a big change. The FZ1 started being very uncomfortable to me, and I've owned 4 bikes with very similar ergonomics. Hopefully I'll be comfy on the CBR...but the seat is a bitch.

I bought a used ECU from a local motorcycle salvage place for $200. Popped it in, turned the key and still the fuel pump didn't run. I bypassed the tip (bank) sensor by connecting some wires and she fired right up. Runs like a champ now.

Clear title, in hand, not salvaged...almost too good to be true.

So you're hooked up for $1,800 or so.....strong work!

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by KSGregman

So you're hooked up for $1,800 or so.....strong work!

I'm $2,100 into it after replacing the tires and ECM, changing the oil, coolant and brake pads, and putting some new grips on. I still need to order a fairing bolt kit ($50 from Lockhart Phillips).

But yea, she's completely road worthy for around half the price of other comparable bikes.

[CasterTroy]

Originally Posted by G-Rex

The sportbikes in my collection are the Hayabusa and the TLR.

To be fair..those aren't even in the same category as a supersport bike. And having owned both of those I can say with authority, NEITHER are anything CLOSE to the performance of a supersport 600.

My BIL owned an F4i while I had my TLR, and we rode them at the track...that's him in the background while I chased down a duck



The F4i "FELT" 200 pounds lighter than the TLR. Was slimmer and had a MUCH better feel on the track.

On the ROAD the TLR and busa rode better because of their weight, but that 600 was a KNIFE on the track. Even after spending all the money I DID on my TLR, I had to work 3 times as hard to get that TLR around the track at the same pace I could that F4i
And having owned an R1 & GSXR 750 I now realize what a totally different world a TRUE sportbike is.
And like Trip said…..the same surprise overwhelmed me when I rode a TRUE supermoto bike!


OH...BTW...GREAT buy man!

[pauldun170]

Congrats on getting a good deal (tip over sensor FTW!!! )

Reminds me of moving to the CBR from the ZX-11.

I cant think of a negative thing to say about any Honda CBR600. 80's up until today.
Maybe the CCT but thats about it.

[Kaneman]

What's a CCT and what's wrong with it in regard to the CBR?

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

What's a CCT and what's wrong with it in regard to the CBR?

Cam Chain Tensioner.

[G-Rex]

CCT = Cam Chain Tensioner.

Honda has a history of poor tensioners. Lots of people go to manual tensioners, but they require more than just *put it on and go* like the stocker.

[shmike]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

What's a CCT and what's wrong with it in regard to the CBR?

CCT= Cam Chain Tensioner.

Certain year CBR's were prone to failure. Installing a manual tensioner fixed the problem.

I don't remember which years were affected but a quick Google search should tell you.

Edit: Fuck you guys are fast.

Mental note: Two lines or less from now on.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

What's a CCT and what's wrong with it in regard to the CBR?

Cam chain tensioner. They suck on hondas, you can get a fixed one pretty cheap that cuts down on the top end rattle.

And litres aren't all that different. The power is just more abundant and shows up earlier.