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Old 05-18-2011, 09:14 AM   #21
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No shit. I cant imagine trying to learn to ride with a figurative monkey on my back. *shudder*
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Old 05-18-2011, 09:18 AM   #22
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No shit. I cant imagine trying to learn to ride with a figurative monkey on my back. *shudder*
i dont even like riding on the same street as someone who is learning, on the same bike, effff that.
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Old 05-18-2011, 10:18 AM   #23
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ride pillion to someone who doesnt know how to ride? screw that, thats just plain stupid
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i dont even like riding on the same street as someone who is learning, on the same bike, effff that.
I wouldn't either

Not saying it makes SENSE (this is government we're talking about here )
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Old 05-18-2011, 10:36 AM   #24
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Thanks for the heads up, Moira. I just wrote Senator Watson about it.
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Old 05-18-2011, 01:02 PM   #25
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I think the idea is that if you have your M license, you know what you're getting into if you hop on the back of a bike with a new rider at the controls. They're trying to protect folks who don't know any better. Fight ignorance with ignorance, I guess.
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Old 05-18-2011, 01:05 PM   #26
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At the most basic of levels, this bill [if turned into law] cannot be enforced. Why have a law that can't be enforced? I mean, there is no way to prove how long someone has had their M license...

There are other things that are VERY wrong with this. But, at the most basic of levels it should be something that officers aren't left to their own devices...
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Old 05-18-2011, 01:29 PM   #27
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Okay, wrote to both Senators Watson and Wentworth. I'll keep an eye on the public discussion schedule.
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Old 05-18-2011, 05:31 PM   #28
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At the most basic of levels, this bill [if turned into law] cannot be enforced. Why have a law that can't be enforced? I mean, there is no way to prove how long someone has had their M license...

There are other things that are VERY wrong with this. But, at the most basic of levels it should be something that officers aren't left to their own devices...
It's just another "rule" full of loopholes with which they can bust riders' balls.
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Old 05-18-2011, 08:22 PM   #29
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At the most basic of levels, this bill [if turned into law] cannot be enforced. Why have a law that can't be enforced? I mean, there is no way to prove how long someone has had their M license...

There are other things that are VERY wrong with this. But, at the most basic of levels it should be something that officers aren't left to their own devices...

So to refer back to my first post, is a 250 ninja or 250 CBR considered a sport bike? Should those two bikes only be allowed to be ridden by people with 2 years experience? Or should those bikes be reccomended as good bikes to learn on, because it sounds like they fit in the sport bike category
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Old 05-19-2011, 04:11 PM   #30
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point taken, I guess I missed the OR part. But that doesnt make sense at all, the rider already has to have an M endorsement, why require the passenger to have a liscense if the rider doesnt, seems kinda stupid to me.
Personally, I think the intent of the law is to keep Jonny Squid from buying his turbo 'busa for his first bike, stopping by Malorie's house on his way home to take her for a ride, and ends up killing her
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