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Old 05-27-2009, 03:56 PM   #21
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I've been wondering about that negra modelo stuff. I prefer yuengling's lager over it though. Maybe sooner or later I'll get a 6 pack and see how it is.
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Old 05-27-2009, 04:03 PM   #22
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Most beer, especially imported beer, has already been sitting in the distribution system for several months after manufacture, so I doubt aging it another month is going to make a difference
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Old 05-27-2009, 04:17 PM   #23
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What? for a mass produced beer it's pretty good. What do you call good beer? Budweiser? Now yes there are much better beers than SA but for a beer that is made is the volume that SA is, it's top notch. YOu can find it ANYWHERE and is priced decently.

Even in TX.... SA is considered an import. The thousands of pounds of hops they rape into one beer is disgusting.

Good Beer:

Grolsh
Widmer
Pete's Wicked Bastard Ale
Heinekin/Red Stripe
Negro Modelo
Kirin
Sapporro
Newcastle
Lebbatt's Blue
Pyramid Hefeweizen
Guinness
Even Shiner is better

and probably a few dozen more.


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I've been wondering about that negra modelo stuff. I prefer yuengling's lager over it though. Maybe sooner or later I'll get a 6 pack and see how it is.
Negro Modelo is good. I had a just bought a 6er this weekend.

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Old 05-27-2009, 04:47 PM   #24
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Even in TX.... SA is considered an import. The thousands of pounds of hops they rape into one beer is disgusting.

Good Beer:

Grolsh
Widmer
Pete's Wicked Bastard Ale
Heinekin/Red Stripe
Negro Modelo
Kirin
Sapporro
Newcastle
Lebbatt's Blue
Pyramid Hefeweizen
Guinness
Even Shiner is better

and probably a few dozen more.

You can't put enough hops in beer. And BTW most of those beers listed use a lot of rice or corn instead of barley which equates to fermentable filler with no flavor. Beer only need 4 ingredients to be beer. Water, hops, barley and yeast. Anything else is fluff.

America really fucked up beer during prohibition. Since ingredients where hard to come by they started taking out hops and adding fillers like corn and rice. Now America is snowed into believing that Miller, Coors Budweiser and other weaksauce beers like them are good beers. If you want to enjoy a good beer the way it was meant to be enjoyed spend more than $3.00 on a 6 pack.

Now do I sound like a beer snob? Absolutely, but that doesn't mean I won't drink it if it is free, I am after all a beer whore. But if I'm laying my hard eared cash down, it's going to be good beer.

Oh an not everything you you listed is crap but I do have a hatred of all wheat beers. They taste like envelope glue to me.
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Old 05-27-2009, 05:14 PM   #25
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You can't put enough hops in beer. And BTW most of those beers listed use a lot of rice or corn instead of barley which equates to fermentable filler with no flavor. Beer only need 4 ingredients to be beer. Water, hops, barley and yeast. Anything else is fluff.

America really fucked up beer during prohibition. Since ingredients where hard to come by they started taking out hops and adding fillers like corn and rice. Now America is snowed into believing that Miller, Coors Budweiser and other weaksauce beers like them are good beers. If you want to enjoy a good beer the way it was meant to be enjoyed spend more than $3.00 on a 6 pack.

Now do I sound like a beer snob? Absolutely, but that doesn't mean I won't drink it if it is free, I am after all a beer whore. But if I'm laying my hard eared cash down, it's going to be good beer.

Oh an not everything you you listed is crap but I do have a hatred of all wheat beers. They taste like envelope glue to me.
I am the same way on wheat beers, not a big fan of them esp the real german heffeweizens. Now give me a good doppelbock or swartzbier and alls good.

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Old 05-27-2009, 05:40 PM   #26
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You can't put enough hops in beer.
I would have to disagree with that.

The idea is to balance the hops and the barley. More hops than needed to do this, does not = better beer.

Adding a shit ton of hops to a Kolsch, for example, would just fuck it up beyond all recognition.

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I would have to disagree with that.

The idea is to balance the hops and the barley. More hops than needed to do this, does not = better beer.

Adding a shit ton of hops to a Kolsch, for example, would just fuck it up beyond all recognition.

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Or it would make a killer ESB

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Old 05-27-2009, 05:53 PM   #28
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Or it would make a killer ESB

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No, it would make the beer equivalent of bong water.

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No, it would make the beer equivalent of bong water.

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I do remember seeing a sirea nevade clone recipe that called for a shitload of hopps, but that was also for a desired result since their stuff is so hoppy.

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I do remember seeing a sirea nevade clone recipe that called for a shitload of hopps, but that was also for a desired result since their stuff is so hoppy.

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That makes sense, as Sierra Nevada has a pretty healthy grain bill, and calls for a high alpha content.

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