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Old 01-15-2010, 06:17 PM   #71
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Yeah, see, my eyesight ain't that great even with my glasses on. The best score I've gotten even with a CCO is 34/40. (Edit to add: eyesight isn't the sole reason.. I'm impatient, and it seems the only way I get to practice my shooting lately is if I go play range safety all day first.. so by the time I get to fire, I'm tired and my fundamentals go out the window).

And I've never fired with an ACOG, I just want to try it sometime. That and I'll take any excuse to get as much trigger time as possible on Uncle Sam's dime.
Yeah, I guess that makes a difference too.

From what I saw on the range (we just got the CCO's and ACOG's for this deployment) was that the CCO's helped those that had problems keeping a consistent sight picture most.
My score stayed about the same (35) I generally shoot between a 34 and 37.
Problem for me was the 200's actually!

FYI easiest way to sight in the CCO is to first zero the iron sights, then while keeping a good sight picture, "lollipop" the front sight post with the red dot and center it with the rear iron sight.
3 rounds to zero iron sights, 3 to zero the CCO.
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Old 01-15-2010, 06:20 PM   #72
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I'll stick to Hellfire (AGM-114L Longbow), thanks much... 8000m range, fire and forget... I could tag your ass from where you can't even see me.
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Old 01-15-2010, 06:23 PM   #73
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Yeah, I guess that makes a difference too.

From what I saw on the range (we just got the CCO's and ACOG's for this deployment) was that the CCO's helped those that had problems keeping a consistent sight picture most.
My score stayed about the same (35) I generally shoot between a 34 and 37.
Problem for me was the 200's actually!

FYI easiest way to sight in the CCO is to first zero the iron sights, then while keeping a good sight picture, "lollipop" the front sight post with the red dot and center it with the rear iron sight.
3 rounds to zero iron sights, 3 to zero the CCO.
Yeah, the consistent sight picture thing got me with the CCO... I was so wasted from being out in the sun all morning, running up and down range for zero and qualification as a range safety, that when it came time to fire, my head would start to drift. At such close range (we were shooting at paper targets), the whole "wherever the red dot is will be where your round will go" only works if your red dot is in the very center of the scope. Damn parallax.
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Old 01-15-2010, 06:26 PM   #74
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Yeah, the consistent sight picture thing got me with the CCO... I was so wasted from being out in the sun all morning, running up and down range for zero and qualification as a range safety, that when it came time to fire, my head would start to drift. At such close range (we were shooting at paper targets), the whole "wherever the red dot is will be where your round will go" only works if your red dot is in the very center of the scope. Damn parallax.
Actually, that's not true.
I didn't believe it when they told me that, so i was moving my head all over having the red dot in the upper right, lower center etc... still hit where i was aiming. did it again at 25 yard when the safety's got to play around burning up rounds. Don't ask me to explain it, but once it's zero'd, the red dot is where the bullet goes (taking into consideration drop and wind of course)
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Old 01-15-2010, 06:39 PM   #75
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Actually, that's not true.
I didn't believe it when they told me that, so i was moving my head all over having the red dot in the upper right, lower center etc... still hit where i was aiming. did it again at 25 yard when the safety's got to play around burning up rounds. Don't ask me to explain it, but once it's zero'd, the red dot is where the bullet goes (taking into consideration drop and wind of course)
Then it's probably just me. I think I zeroed myself a little low for paper targets, and I wasn't as self-aware of my trigger squeeze... I realized I jerked the trigger a couple of times out of sheer impatience. At that point I really didn't care.. I was tired, my body armor was digging into my back and hips, and I was tired of hearing the guy on the bullhorn drone on.
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Not as big as the Gustav, but more powerful. The 280MM "Atomic Annie" fired a tactical nuclear warhead with a yield of 15 kilotons: http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_atomic.php3 Fascinating article with pictures.
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Glock 22 for sale locally by private party, $400 obo Hmm I've always wanted a Glock.
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Glock 22 for sale locally by private party, $400 obo Hmm I've always wanted a Glock.
Not sure how I feel about buying used guns. No way to really tell how they were cared for...
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Not sure how I feel about buying used guns. No way to really tell how they were cared for...
You pop them open and look for any wear, dents from dropping etc. Any gun dealer can look at it for you and tell you if the weapon has been neglected. There will be signs. Really the only way to mistreat a gun is to not clean/oil it and to fire handloaded bullets that are too powerful. Dry firing can also ruin the firing pin, but again that is something that will be visible to a professional.
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You pop them open and look for any wear, dents from dropping etc. Any gun dealer can look at it for you and tell you if the weapon has been neglected.
Trustworthy dealers. Some will pass their mistakes in purchasing onto unknowing buyers.

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There will be signs. Really the only way to mistreat a gun is to not clean/oil it and to fire handloaded bullets that are too powerful.
Sometimes a weapon that has not been cleaned can be a good deal. But you have to know what to look for. If someone has shot lead bullets ( not jacketed ) it will look nasty but will clean up nice. It is a good amount of work to clean the lead out.

With revolvers, excessive chmber pressures will make the cylinder loose, contribute to gas etching on the top strap above the cylinder where it meets the barrel. The forcing cone will be worn.

Loose slides and worn throats ( where the bullet jumps from the case to the barrel ) are a couple of signs.

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Dry firing can also ruin the firing pin, but again that is something that will be visible to a professional.
It depends on the firearm. Rimfire and shotguns should never be dryfired unless you have a spent cartridge or snapcaps in the chamber.

Almost all centerfire pistols and rifles can be dry fired without damage. In fact, it is recommended that military firearms be stored with the firing pin released ( obviously if it's loaded, do NOT pull the trigger to store it )
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