2011 Big Four model changes?

[Homeslice]

04 gix 750 was the funnest bike I've ever ridden......It wasn't all that flickable, but the stability was awesome, the intake noise was awesome, and above all, its stretched-out riding position made it feel awesome in sweepers because you could feel yourself countersteering more so than most bikes where you are just hovering over the bars.

[Dave]

Lots of rumors flying around the ducati camp about 2011...

[racedoll]

Originally Posted by Tmall

You roll into the throttle of a 1000 at any rpm and it gets going in a hurry. Do it on a 600 and you're met with... A delay.

Very obvious when hubby and I are out riding. He pulls away like nothing, unless I'm revving to the moon.

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Ownage.....The liters are all 30-50 lbs heavier.
Not to mention, except for the Honda, they all have those STUPID dual exhausts.

Liters might be heavier by number but my 600 compared to hubby's 1000 feels like a freaking pig to move around.

Originally Posted by Homeslice

The 04-05 felt a lot better IMO.

Seems like 04-05 for any manufacturer was one of the best couple years and from there they went down hill.

Originally Posted by Dave

the second gen had a lot of faults, its really more of a busa fighter than a superbike

Agreed. Hubby disliked his 07 ZX10 very much. He is much happier on the 05 now.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by racedoll

Liters might be heavier by number but my 600 compared to hubby's 1000 feels like a freaking pig to move around.

Might be a ride height or tire issue. I had an 03 zx6rr like yours, and didn't notice anything unusual.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by racedoll

Very obvious when hubby and I are out riding. He pulls away like nothing, unless I'm revving to the moon.



Liters might be heavier by number but my 600 compared to hubby's 1000 feels like a freaking pig to move around.



Seems like 04-05 for any manufacturer was one of the best couple years and from there they went down hill.



Agreed. Hubby disliked his 07 ZX10 very much. He is much happier on the 05 now.

Gen 1s are BEASTS.

[racedoll]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Might be a ride height or tire issue. I had an 03 zx6rr like yours, and didn't notice anything unusual.

On the bike yes, I struggle a bit to move around because of my height versus the bike. But I was referring to off the bike pushing around. It is a fat pig, even Erik thinks so. The other issue I have is the turning radius. Erik used to think it was me but then he tried to turn it around in the garage. It's like a 50-point turn versus a 2-point for him. Oh well. I'm used to both and wouldn't trade what I have for anything new out there.

Originally Posted by Dave

Gen 1s are BEASTS.

They are a bit on the unstable, hyper side.

[Tmall]

Homie, stop ignoring my statement...

13000 rpm divided by 15,500 =83% difference. Do you think the "lighter valvetrain" offsets the difference in rotational mass? Or is that a buzzword you're just throwing out there?

[Dave]

Originally Posted by racedoll

On the bike yes, I struggle a bit to move around because of my height versus the bike. But I was referring to off the bike pushing around. It is a fat pig, even Erik thinks so. The other issue I have is the turning radius. Erik used to think it was me but then he tried to turn it around in the garage. It's like a 50-point turn versus a 2-point for him. Oh well. I'm used to both and wouldn't trade what I have for anything new out there.



They are a bit on the unstable, hyper side.

a bit? lol they got a picture of one under the definition of headshake and a link to widowmaker

i hope your hubby has a serious steering damper on that thing

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Might be a ride height or tire issue. I had an 03 zx6rr like yours, and didn't notice anything unusual.

motorcyclist is only showing a 10lb difference between a 04 636 and a 04 zx10.

i know the bike in question is the limited edition zx6-rr but is there a weight difference between it and the bigger bore model?

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Tmall

Homie, stop ignoring my statement...

13000 rpm divided by 15,500 =83% difference. Do you think the "lighter valvetrain" offsets the difference in rotational mass? Or is that a buzzword you're just throwing out there?

How do you know that lower RPM is enough to offset the difference?

Nobody is going to know for sure unless they took the weight of all the parts, as well as their size and their distance from the bike's roll center, and made all the necessary calculations.