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Old 04-30-2013, 11:03 PM   #1
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Default Plane Crash at Bagram AFB
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:12 PM   #2
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It is crazy to see a 747 just fall out of the sky like that.
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:44 PM   #3
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It is crazy to see a 747 just fall out of the sky like that.
Agreed.

Totally wild.
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:58 PM   #5
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Damn. That thing looked like it was in a vertical stall.
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Old 05-01-2013, 01:20 AM   #6
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Damn. That thing looked like it was in a vertical stall.
I think that is what happened. The initial stuff I have seen about it so far say that cargo wasn't properly secured and fell/slid to the back of the aircraft on takeoff. A sudden center of gravity change, particularly at takeoff, could cause an attitude change very quickly leading to a stall. At that altitude I don't think there is anything a pilot can do to recover. If the C of G moved far enough back I don't think a pilot can do anything regardless of the altitude.
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Old 05-01-2013, 10:51 AM   #7
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I think that is what happened. The initial stuff I have seen about it so far say that cargo wasn't properly secured and fell/slid to the back of the aircraft on takeoff. A sudden center of gravity change, particularly at takeoff, could cause an attitude change very quickly leading to a stall. At that altitude I don't think there is anything a pilot can do to recover. If the C of G moved far enough back I don't think a pilot can do anything regardless of the altitude.
When I was there, all the aircraft took off and landed at pretty steep angles; I believe the airfield has a "combat" take-off and landing policy. I don't know if it qualifies as "combat" when you're talking about a 747, but a steeper-than-normal take-off attitude for a plane that size probably makes stalling a lot easier.

Disclaimer: not a pilot, I may be completely full of shit.

That said, RIP to the flight crew.
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I saw a report that either al Qaeda or the Taliban were claiming responsibility for it. Yeah, right.
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