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Old 10-12-2009, 07:11 PM   #1
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Azoomm I agree however I dont advise emergency stopping or swerving while out on the roads and both those skills do come in handy when you need them.

I rode all the time on my 250 but had a "swerve and stop incident" at an intersection and wish I had worked on not slamming the rear brake. I slid through the intersection and could have stopped the bike MUCH faster had I worked on braking technique. Packing on the miles will definitely make you a much safer better rider, but so will deticated practice on emergency maneuvers.
"emergency" is extremely difficult to create when you are the one knowing and choosing where to create the incident to practice.

I put it equal to learning how to ride a bicycle with clips...
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Old 10-15-2009, 02:22 PM   #2
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"emergency" is extremely difficult to create when you are the one knowing and choosing where to create the incident to practice.

I put it equal to learning how to ride a bicycle with clips...
i'd equate it to learning to ride vs clips only. noobs on clips usually only fall over at stops, and sometimes starting vs learning to ride.

sure seat time is important, but he needs to get the emergancy stuff practiced so that if while out on the road, and an emergancy sit. appears he's practiced vs the emergancy BEING the practice.


Good Job OP

practice practice practice

get a tennis ball, cut it in 1/2, throw those down as a braking marker. start practicing your emergancy braking, gradually going faster and faster and applying more braking force.......

ease and squeeze vs GRAB!
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:19 PM   #3
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Congrats on riding. Just continue on, getting more miles under your belt. The other stuff will come, no need to force it.
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:48 PM   #4
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In the Cincy area, if you are out cruising back roads watch out for leaves, moss, and the areas where walnuts have been falling in the road and cars running over them. With all the rain we've had here lately there has been a lot of crap falling/being washed onto the road, just keep an eye ahead of you and watch out for objects in the road.

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Old 10-13-2009, 12:31 AM   #5
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In the Cincy area, if you are out cruising back roads watch out for leaves, moss, and the areas where walnuts have been falling in the road and cars running over them. With all the rain we've had here lately there has been a lot of crap falling/being washed onto the road, just keep an eye ahead of you and watch out for objects in the road.

Congrats on the week of riding.
cool didn't see that you were local too.

Are there local guys that get together and do group rides? I'd like to take the suggestion that some folks said so people can give me tips and talk bikes with folks. I don't know much about bikes so the more knowledge the better.

I rode with a passenger tonight for the first time down Eastern Ave. Nice smooth roads, up to Ault Park and back. It was just fine, my passenger stayed put and didn't fall off . All was good though, another riding day tomorrow before the rain comes.
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Old 10-12-2009, 10:19 PM   #6
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Congrats on passing the MSF & putting the first week under your belt!


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"emergency" is extremely difficult to create when you are the one knowing and choosing where to create the incident to practice.
I agree it's impossible to recreate the element of surprise/panic in an actual emergency situation. But I think that's a bit like saying "There's no point in firing rounds at a range, since that will never be like an actual gunfight." Sure it's not the same, but when shit hits the fan you'll want to know how to release the safety pretty quick.

Practicing specific skills/maneuvers and training yourself to be able to control the bike quickly and precisely can make a HUGE difference in your reactions when those inevitable situations occur. There's no 'practice' substitute for lots of saddle time, of course, but working on maneuvers you wouldn't ordinarily make in 'normal' street riding also has it's place and can be the difference between panicking/hesitating & reacting confidently.

Reading is another great way to pick up valuable information - stuff that you might otherwise pick up at the school of hard knocks! Street Strategies and Sport Riding Techniques are two really good examples of the many books out there that can help grow your skill-set & awareness.

Oh - and a big ditto on the value of learning to counter-steer consciously and precisely. Steering-input at the bars is a byproduct of leaning/shifting your body, not the other way around, and crucial to being able to move the bike exactly where & when you want it to go.
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Old 10-13-2009, 10:50 PM   #7
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There is a lot of Ohio / Northern Kentucky people that hang out at www.localriders.com . They have rides here and there, but I think the one constant ride they always have is on Sunday, they go down to some nice roads near Hebron ( Search for KY 10/22). The pace is pretty much whatever your after, spirited or just cruising. I've met a few at bike nights in the past, but my schedule hasn't been the greatest for longer weekend rides. If your looking to cruise head out towards Indiana, there is some nice roads just to cruise around on.

PS - didn't see if you had your license or not, but if you have your temps, your not supposed to ride with a passenger IIRC. I've never had a problem with cops, but you never know.
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:18 AM   #8
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Thanks, i'll check it out.

I have my license got it when I did the MSF clss.
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Old 10-14-2009, 12:42 PM   #9
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It is your own decision, but I didn't ride with a passenger for the first year or so. I still only do it rarely. Some people on here refuse to take one. Beyond the additional responsibility, it messes with the dynamics of the bike a lot. Even Kate Moss will increase your gross vehicle weight by about 15%. If you still aren't comfortable with getting on the brakes hard or slower speed leaning you might want to hold off on carrying passengers for a while.
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Old 10-14-2009, 12:54 PM   #10
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My advice is just ride with (knowledgable) people and talk to them. Try to convince them to let you be leader so they can see where you need help and you can ride at your pace.
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