opinions on mechanical issue

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by shmike

Once you pull the axle out, you get all the slack you need.

Same with reinstall: Push wheel to front, throw chain on, pull wheel into place (back) and slide axle in.

I can't imagine having to adjust the chain every time I did a wheel or tire swap.

Pull the axle then those little plates come off so the adjusting screws shouldnt be touched. And it will go back on the same way each time.

[pauldun170]

rule of thumb
WHENEVER you see that light come on, no matter how quick or even if you think it MAYBE came on while you are riding, kill the engine and pull over immediately.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by playtowinthegame

01 yzf 600

i had my rear tire replaced at a polaris dealership on march 2nd. on march 29th, i was on my way to work. coming to a stop light, i noticed my oil light come on, then it disappeared almost as fast as it came on. 2 seconds later it stayed on for good. im thinking"i need an oil change soon". when i go to down shift, i press the clutch, and to my surprise, i have no clutch pressure. i stall the bike at the traffic light. notice fluid on the ground. its oil.

i call tow. tow it to the other bike shop in town, cuz polaris is too expensive for their labor. they tell me the chain was too loose, hit the clutch push rod, broke that, the clutch cover gasket, and the clutch push rod seal.

called polaris to explain their problem. they said the chain loosened by itself. they said the sprocket either had a rounded tooth and it jumped, or the chain just stretched itself. i doubt this. they also said when you take the tire off, the tire goes back by default where it was before.

but the 2nd cheaper shop, where the bike is at now, said it was put on too loose. is it possible that the chain became loose in just 27 days of riding??

guys does this all make sense?? dont u believe polaris is at fault here??

No, it doesn't make sense.

For starters, there is no way in hell the chain "hit" the clutch push rod. The clutch push rod, is nestled deep inside the clutch basket, which is underneath the clutch cover, which is on the OPPOSITE side of the bike.

So, unless your chain jumped off the sprockets, made it's way around to the other side of the bike, borrowed a wrench from a passer by, removed the clutch cover, then jumped inside and got to whacking on the clutch, your mechanic is on glue.

Generally speaking, when shit goes horribly wrong with a drive chain, they tend to wad themselves up between the counter shaft sprocket and the engine case. When this happens, the bike usually comes to a screeching halt, and catapults your ass over the bars. The left side case would likely be leaking, and your transmission would be in a serious state of fucked.

Now, all that shit combined could "possibly" (unlikely) also cause damage to the clutch push rod, but not before it tore up all kinds of other shit on the way there.

I'm not sure your chain issue has anything to do with your clutch issue.

The easiest, and most common way to fuck up a clutch push rod, is to ride to piss out of something, and ignore the service limits of the clutch springs. When they get weak, bad shit happens...

Just out of curiosity, where was the oil you saw coming from?

JC

[playtowinthegame]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

No, it doesn't make sense.

For starters, there is no way in hell the chain "hit" the clutch push rod. The clutch push rod, is nestled deep inside the clutch basket, which is underneath the clutch cover, which is on the OPPOSITE side of the bike.

So, unless your chain jumped off the sprockets, made it's way around to the other side of the bike, borrowed a wrench from a passer by, removed the clutch cover, then jumped inside and got to whacking on the clutch, your mechanic is on glue.

Generally speaking, when shit goes horribly wrong with a drive chain, they tend to wad themselves up between the counter shaft sprocket and the engine case. When this happens, the bike usually comes to a screeching halt, and catapults your ass over the bars. The left side case would likely be leaking, and your transmission would be in a serious state of fucked.

Now, all that shit combined could "possibly" (unlikely) also cause damage to the clutch push rod, but not before it tore up all kinds of other shit on the way there.

I'm not sure your chain issue has anything to do with your clutch issue.

The easiest, and most common way to fuck up a clutch push rod, is to ride to piss out of something, and ignore the service limits of the clutch springs. When they get weak, bad shit happens...

Just out of curiosity, where was the oil you saw coming from?

JC

it was coming out from the left side of the bottom of the engine. when i pulled over, the entire back wheel was covered in oil.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by playtowinthegame

it was coming out from the left side of the bottom of the engine. when i pulled over, the entire back wheel was covered in oil.

You, or somebody, need(s) to pull the counter shaft sprocket off, and look for cracks in the case.

JC

[anthonyk]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

No, it doesn't make sense.

For starters, there is no way in hell the chain "hit" the clutch push rod. The clutch push rod, is nestled deep inside the clutch basket, which is underneath the clutch cover, which is on the OPPOSITE side of the bike.

Even though the clutch is on the right side, I'm 99% sure the YZF600R's clutch rod is actuated from the left side of the motor, under the sprocket cover, and the chain runs really close to that clutch push rod.

Edit: this thread for adjusting the clutch play on the lower end of the cable shows what really looks like the ass end of a clutch push rod right in front of the sprocket: http://www.yzf600r.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31474

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by anthonyk

Even though the clutch is on the right side, I'm 99% sure the YZF600R's clutch rod is actuated from the left side of the motor, under the sprocket cover, and the chain runs really close to that clutch push rod.

Edit: this thread for adjusting the clutch play on the lower end of the cable shows what really looks like the ass end of a clutch push rod right in front of the sprocket: http://www.yzf600r.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31474

I cant speak for the yamaha motors but thats how the TL1000 motors are set up. Those motors are notorious for leaking from the clutch pushrod seal as well as from the countershaft sprocket seals. I had what may have been the push rod seal completley let go on me, and oiled up the real wheel big time. Fortunatley I was traveling straight when it happened and safely pulled to the side of the road.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by anthonyk

Even though the clutch is on the right side, I'm 99% sure the YZF600R's clutch rod is actuated from the left side of the motor, under the sprocket cover, and the chain runs really close to that clutch push rod.

Edit: this thread for adjusting the clutch play on the lower end of the cable shows what really looks like the ass end of a clutch push rod right in front of the sprocket: http://www.yzf600r.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=31474

I stand corrected. Apparently there is a way in hell the chain can hit the push rod.

JC

[Trip]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

I stand corrected. Apparently there is a way in hell the chain can hit the push rod.

JC

Must of been a tough day at the office, Lent is your busy season after all. So many parties to go to...

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by Trip

Must of been a tough day at the office, Lent is your busy season after all. So many parties to go to...

You have no idea how hard it is to keep Captain Morgan from jacking off.

JC