Screw you guys....we're going home or afghanistan or somewhere

[derf]

Did anyone else see any videos of some of the bases in iraq now? Its sad how much of a ghost town they are now

[Sixxxxer]

It's not gonna end happy for the Vets/Currently Active Military Vs. the Civies and arguing about the war and whats right and whats wrong.

With that being said...America is known for being the biggest baddest best Military in the world. In short...Thats why we go everywhere we arent wanted.

[Sixxxxer]

I know it's your Life's work Dave...But I'm 99% sure JC was kidding with that last one...

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

I know it's your Life's work Dave...But I'm 99% sure JC was kidding with that last one...

Yes and no.

The Shi'a and the Sunni have been fighting over the same lame-ass bullshit for 1300+ years. "My first cousin is holier than your first cousin". Both sides are assholes, and always will be.

Under Saddam, anyone that upset the Baath Party applecart, be they Shi'a or Sunni, was likely to get disappeared in the middle of the night. Saddam was Honey Badger, he didn't give a shit who you were. You make trouble, you're dead. Simple.

Because of that kind of rule, sectarian violence between the two groups was lower under Saddam, then it was in post 2003 levels. The numbers are there, and I don't know of any informed individual that disputes this.

So, was it worth it? Well, Dave got a new bike and a house out of the deal, so I guess that makes it worth it to him. For me, not so much. Nine fucking years of this shit, way too many dead and wounded Americans, and money we didn't have to spend in the first place, and what exactly did we "get" for all that?

Saddam is dead. OK, cool. Who's in charge now? A guy from the Islamic Dawa Party. Who the fuck is the Islamic Dawa Party, you ask? The same party that supported the Iranian Revolution, and the taking of our embassy back in '79.

Yay. I feel soooooooo much better now...

JC

[Switch]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

Yes and no.

The Shi'a and the Sunni have been fighting over the same lame-ass bullshit for 1300+ years. "My first cousin is holier than your first cousin". Both sides are assholes, and always will be.

Under Saddam, anyone that upset the Baath Party applecart, be they Shi'a or Sunni, was likely to get disappeared in the middle of the night. Saddam was Honey Badger, he didn't give a shit who you were. You make trouble, you're dead. Simple.

Because of that kind of rule, sectarian violence between the two groups was lower under Saddam, then it was in post 2003 levels. The numbers are there, and I don't know of any informed individual that disputes this.

So, was it worth it? Well, Dave got a new bike and a house out of the deal, so I guess that makes it worth it to him. For me, not so much. Nine fucking years of this shit, way too many dead and wounded Americans, and money we didn't have to spend in the first place, and what exactly did we "get" for all that?

Saddam is dead. OK, cool. Who's in charge now? A guy from the Islamic Dawa Party. Who the fuck is the Islamic Dawa Party, you ask? The same party that supported the Iranian Revolution, and the taking of our embassy back in '79.

Yay. I feel soooooooo much better now...

JC

Quoting for truth.

[azoomm]

Hey, war is good business. We better get going on the next one otherwise we are just going to flood our unemployment market... Oh wait...

[Sixxxxer]

this isnt the 40's and 50's...You dont see the housewive's of america making military equipment for our troops.

You see them complaining about there botox injections and what there wearing to lunch tomorrow.

[Archren]

Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

this isnt the 40's and 50's...You dont see the housewive's of america making military equipment for our troops.

You see them complaining about there botox injections and what there wearing to lunch tomorrow.

And people wonder why some come home and end up killing themselves and/or their loved ones...

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

this isnt the 40's and 50's...You dont see the housewive's of america making military equipment for our troops.

You see them complaining about there botox injections and what there wearing to lunch tomorrow.

You are absolutely right. Damn housewives and their complaining!

[Homeslice]