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Old 03-13-2009, 12:16 AM   #11
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If only it didnt look like a suzuki on the nose.... I'd still rather get the FZ6.

I still like the YZF's tho Jojo. They are comfortable as hell.

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I think they'd sell like shit, just like in their waning years. Why buy a 750 when for about a grand more you can have the full on liter bike? There's not a large enough price gap between the 600's and 1000's where you could justify slotting in a 750 without cannibalizing some of the bread and butter 600 sales and losing sales to the liters. There wouldn't be enough sales to justify ongoing development.
I agree.... It's either you are using a 600 to its potential or are experienced enough for a litre banger or not. IMO, get rid of the 750 and design a competing 250 like bike. It'd most likely sell better. All manufacturers should have a small capacity bike. I just dont get why all the manu's arent catching on to the Ninja 250 success.
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Old 03-13-2009, 12:17 AM   #12
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if it weighs more the handling is gonna suffer, yes?
there are a lot of amateur racers like the 750.

Suzuki's are excellent handling bikes. they are easy to ride.
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Old 03-13-2009, 12:19 AM   #13
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If only it didnt look like a suzuki on the nose....
same thing I said when I uncrated the first one
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Old 03-13-2009, 12:54 AM   #14
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same thing I said when I uncrated the first one
Uncrated? You work at a dealer? Nice!

I really would want to this summer if the economy was a bit better.
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Old 03-13-2009, 01:15 AM   #15
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Uncrated? You work at a dealer? Nice!

I really would want to this summer if the economy was a bit better.
I was working at a dealership. got canned because I didn't watch what I said when I told them I wasn't going to room with the one guy I didn't like in the shop on road trip.
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I doubt it. I bet the sportbike sales take a big hit this year and there may be companies getting rid of certain models not planning for more.
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I doubt it. I bet the sportbike sales take a big hit this year and there may be companies getting rid of certain models not planning for more.
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:31 AM   #18
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Hey Tally..... how'd you like that game tonight?
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Liter bikes have more reciprocating mass, which works against you when the revs are high. Also, not everyone wants liter-bike insurance.
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Old 03-13-2009, 09:42 AM   #20
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plus for some unimaginable reason suzy's 750s outweigh some liters. whats the point then?
The GSXR 750 only weighs 5lbs more than the 600 and considerably less than the 100. Not sure where you get your info from but it's wrong. The weight of my 750 as spec'd by Suzuki was 359 dry. I challenge you to find a liter bike with that low of a dry weight.

Kawi used to sell a 750 but they were no where near competitive with the GSXR's. I love the 750 power plant and if any of the manufacturers came out with a 800cc GP replica, I'd drool all over one. For me I don't need a liter bike. I rode a new GSXR1000 and it wasn't for me. The 750 has enough low end grunt and mid range to keep me happy. I dont need to go 180+mph. The 600's on the other hand don't have enough low end torque for how I like to ride. Now the new ZX-6R is supposed to have increased low end torque so that may solve my problem with that.

My logic was this, sure the 750 was $1000 more than a 600 but to get that extra 30hp I would have had to spend well over a grand to get that kind of extra power and the 750 is pretty damn close in weight to the 600, so it's just like buying a 600 with a factory engine upgrade. Sure I could have spent an additional $1000 to jump up the the liter bike but like mentioned above, they're not my style of bike. I'd be happy if all the manufacturers started producing 750s again, especially Yamaha, but I doubt it will ever happen.
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