Bling vs Bang - Page 2

Amber Lamps · 09-14-2010, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Dude probably has a liter bike and is embarassed that he's getting owned by 600's with better riders. So he wants more power to reel them in on the straights.

If it's just for track days only, I would think that throttle smoothness would be the most important goal to tune for. Who cares about more power unless you're actually competing? Hell, I would have more respect for a STREET rider who asks for more power.

Yep, I dialed out almost 20 hp on my bike to smooth the throttle response. My '01 was worse for abrupt power.

DLIT · 09-14-2010, 01:55 PM

I think suspension is the most crucial. I've ridden on the track with stock suspension that wasn't set up, stock that was set up and full Ohlins. The feeling you get from a properly tuned and/or upgraded suspension is great. More stable on the brakes, mid corner and exit. And you could have the best tires on your bike, a badly tuned suspension could eat through 'em in a matter of a few sessions. And getting your suspension tuned is probably the cheapest thing you could start out with...but you could see some great results from it. Power will make you faster in the straights. Suspension will get you through the corners faster.

I still have yet to try anything other than stock gearing, but I have a feeling it'll make a world of difference in regards to leaving corners and accelerating, as the R6 down low is a bit lacking. A couple extra teeth should help aleviate that.

smileyman · 09-14-2010, 02:30 PM

Gearing can be a bit of a compromise. and it probably isnt as crucial nowadays with FI'd bikes that pull through a much wider band of torque than with bikes in the past. Its just another one of those advantages you want on your side...

Amber Lamps · 09-14-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

Gearing can be a bit of a compromise. and it probably isnt as crucial nowadays with FI'd bikes that pull through a much wider band of torque than with bikes in the past. Its just another one of those advantages you want on your side...

Again, I totally agree. Back when I had carb'd bikes, I almost always changed the gearing, now never.

Amber Lamps · 09-14-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DLIT

I think suspension is the most crucial. I've ridden on the track with stock suspension that wasn't set up, stock that was set up and full Ohlins. The feeling you get from a properly tuned and/or upgraded suspension is great. More stable on the brakes, mid corner and exit. And you could have the best tires on your bike, a badly tuned suspension could eat through 'em in a matter of a few sessions. And getting your suspension tuned is probably the cheapest thing you could start out with...but you could see some great results from it. Power will make you faster in the straights. Suspension will get you through the corners faster.

I still have yet to try anything other than stock gearing, but I have a feeling it'll make a world of difference in regards to leaving corners and accelerating, as the R6 down low is a bit lacking. A couple extra teeth should help aleviate that.

I agree on suspension upgrades. Stock suspension is a huge compromise the engineers make to try and cover every type/size of rider that may purchase the bike. I always get the springs done and tune the suspension to my style and taste at the very least.

Homeslice · 09-14-2010, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

I agree on suspension upgrades. Stock suspension is a huge compromise the engineers make to try and cover every type/size of rider that may purchase the bike. I always get the springs done and tune the suspension to my style and taste at the very least.

Careful..........According to some people, spending money on suspension is a waste unless you race.

Never mind that your suspension affects you no matter how fast or slow you're going.......

the chi · 09-14-2010, 12:29 PM

So what he really wanted was a piece of paper saying his bike could do "x" as far as performance on the dyno, whether it actually pushed that on the street or track is moot since he has a piece of paper saying his bike can do "x" and he can show it to all his buddies as proof of how big his penis is.

Right?

smileyman · 09-14-2010, 12:41 PM

I agree with Dnyce, performance is always about having ten or more things all working together producing synergy, rather than one thing boosted a hundred percent. The bigger is better, if some is good get more attitude just wont work.

Amber Lamps · 09-15-2010, 10:34 AM

Yea that was too many words for me... Basically, did you say "yes they do"? To each their own. Fwiw I was actually debating suspension with someone else initially so...

OTB · 09-15-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

Yea that was too many words for me... Basically, did you say "yes they do"? To each their own. Fwiw I was actually debating suspension with someone else initially so...

Was that like "Whatevarrrrrrrr!"

09-14-2010, 01:55 PM	#2
DLIT Clit Commander Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Las Vegas Moto: 2012 Ducati 1199 Panigale S Posts: 4,189	I think suspension is the most crucial. I've ridden on the track with stock suspension that wasn't set up, stock that was set up and full Ohlins. The feeling you get from a properly tuned and/or upgraded suspension is great. More stable on the brakes, mid corner and exit. And you could have the best tires on your bike, a badly tuned suspension could eat through 'em in a matter of a few sessions. And getting your suspension tuned is probably the cheapest thing you could start out with...but you could see some great results from it. Power will make you faster in the straights. Suspension will get you through the corners faster. I still have yet to try anything other than stock gearing, but I have a feeling it'll make a world of difference in regards to leaving corners and accelerating, as the R6 down low is a bit lacking. A couple extra teeth should help aleviate that. __________________ Dress for the crash. Not the ride.

09-14-2010, 02:30 PM	#3
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Gearing can be a bit of a compromise. and it probably isnt as crucial nowadays with FI'd bikes that pull through a much wider band of torque than with bikes in the past. Its just another one of those advantages you want on your side... __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

09-14-2010, 12:41 PM	#8
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	I agree with Dnyce, performance is always about having ten or more things all working together producing synergy, rather than one thing boosted a hundred percent. The bigger is better, if some is good get more attitude just wont work. __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

09-15-2010, 10:34 AM	#9
Amber Lamps Moto GP Star Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 14,556	Yea that was too many words for me... Basically, did you say "yes they do"? To each their own. Fwiw I was actually debating suspension with someone else initially so...