Anyone gotten a 190/55/17 on edge just street riding? - Page 3

Homeslice · 09-18-2009, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

Somewhere in this porn corrupted ECU of mine I have a picture of Doohan, Schwantz, Rainey, and I think Saarinen going thru a corner at a GP. The styles are all so different and the bikes lean angles are dramatically different and yet their corner speed would only have varied slightly...Doohan and Saarinen leaing their bikes over much further on the tire...

Yeah, which means they're probably at the limits of their tires, while the other guys still have more they could use.

TYEster · 09-18-2009, 05:47 PM

Yes, but they get ridden at the track so it doesn't matter.

See *if you lean the opposite way* post... Gotta scrub em before runnin em.

Cutty72 · 09-21-2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TYEster

Yes, but they get ridden at the track so it doesn't matter.

See *if you lean the opposite way* post... Gotta scrub em before runnin em.

I went to the track with brand new tires. Just took it a bit slow the first lap, that was the scrub period.

Sean · 09-18-2009, 06:48 PM

I don't use all of my 190/55 at the track. I'm not sure what most rim widths are but mine came stock with a 180, so I'd guess my stock rim was a bit smaller than bikes that come stock with 190s.

smileyman · 09-18-2009, 07:03 PM

All the tracks I raced were tight point and shoot course that a 170/60 did fine. Thought I had hit the big time on a 180 sized slick. The longer tracks we ran only got a slightly better tread footprint on maybe 3 of their 10 or 11 corners so not a huge advantage there.

in the end the greater footprint at lean and traction ability of that footprint was largeley determined by setup and that by a fine fine line...

JoJoYZF · 09-20-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

I don't use all of my 190/55 at the track. I'm not sure what most rim widths are but mine came stock with a 180, so I'd guess my stock rim was a bit smaller than bikes that come stock with 190s.

Im not 100% but I think bikes wit 180s have 5.5" rims and those with 190s have 6".

karl_1052 · 09-20-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JoJoYZF

Im not 100% but I think bikes wit 180s have 5.5" rims and those with 190s have 6".

A 190 should not be used on a 5.5" rim. It stretches the tire to a point that could affect handling.

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/tires...ize/index.html

Sean · 09-21-2009, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by karl_1052

A 190 should not be used on a 5.5" rim. It stretches the tire to a point that could affect handling.

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/tires...ize/index.html

That was a 190/50, I run a 190/55, any idea how the height compares? I do wonder about the profile but I haven't noticed any noticeable change in handling. I'm still not using all the tread, but considering a friend highsided because he ran out of tire and broke his collarbone this past weekend, I'm fine with that.

jtemple · 09-21-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

That was a 190/50, I run a 190/55, any idea how the height compares? I do wonder about the profile but I haven't noticed any noticeable change in handling.

I ran through one Dunlop Qualifier in 190/50. The only thing I really noticed was it seemed to lean slower. A 190/55 Pilot Power 2CT felt "tippy" in comparison when I put them on. Going from 190/50 to 190/55 took more getting used to than going from 190/55 to 190/50.

smileyman · 09-21-2009, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

That was a 190/50, I run a 190/55, any idea how the height compares? I do wonder about the profile but I haven't noticed any noticeable change in handling. I'm still not using all the tread, but considering a friend highsided because he ran out of tire and broke his collarbone this past weekend, I'm fine with that.

Run outta tire? or run outta talent? Not trying to be a dick but you can ride over any tires capability...

09-18-2009, 07:03 PM	#5
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	All the tracks I raced were tight point and shoot course that a 170/60 did fine. Thought I had hit the big time on a 180 sized slick. The longer tracks we ran only got a slightly better tread footprint on maybe 3 of their 10 or 11 corners so not a huge advantage there. in the end the greater footprint at lean and traction ability of that footprint was largeley determined by setup and that by a fine fine line... __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

09-18-2009, 05:47 PM	#2
TYEster With MORE TYEstosterone Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: TX Moto: '12 KX450F / 08 YZ250F #512 / 07 KX65 #1 Posts: 1,429	Yes, but they get ridden at the track so it doesn't matter. See if you lean the opposite way post... Gotta scrub em before runnin em.

09-18-2009, 06:48 PM	#4
Sean giggity Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: socal Moto: street, sumo & dirty Posts: 1,071	I don't use all of my 190/55 at the track. I'm not sure what most rim widths are but mine came stock with a 180, so I'd guess my stock rim was a bit smaller than bikes that come stock with 190s.