'The Unemployed Will Not Be Considered' - Page 4

HurricaneHeather · 06-08-2010, 05:12 PM

My company did layoffs last year in one department. I have two friends in that department who made considerably LESS $ than their teammates. They were the only two to keep their jobs. If person A will do all this work for $50k, but person B makes $75k doing the same job, then person A gets to keep their 50k while person B is sent home. It's not about performance...it's about money.

And it sucks that they are doing that, but it doesn't suck that they are honest about it in their posting.

Rider · 06-08-2010, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HurricaneHeather

My company did layoffs last year in one department. I have two friends in that department who made considerably LESS $ than their teammates. They were the only two to keep their jobs. If person A will do all this work for $50k, but person B makes $75k doing the same job, then person A gets to keep their 50k while person B is sent home. It's not about performance...it's about money.

And it sucks that they are doing that, but it doesn't suck that they are honest about it in their posting.

It is performance though. You have person A who is performing the SAME as person B. Person B should be performing better than person A or you get the boot. If person A and Person B are performing the same quality of work you have a problem. Either person A is severely underpaid or person B is a slacker.

HurricaneHeather · 06-08-2010, 05:15 PM

AND...I tell my clients all the time to include an assessment on their job postings. If you require X experience, then make every applicant answer the question "Do you have X experience?"

Some will lie, but it will weed a lot of folks out. A little planning when you post the job goes a long way.

HurricaneHeather · 06-08-2010, 05:22 PM

Yeah I could see that...

wildchild · 06-08-2010, 05:29 PM

it's not a new thing. when I was unemployed I decided to go ahead and follow a different path that I really want to do anyway. driving over the road. yeah when I called to talk to them first thing they said was oops sorry you've been unemployed too long and we can't consider you for employment.
next time I get laid off I'm calling them the next day.

pdog · 06-08-2010, 08:13 PM

Personally I think ignoring the unemployed is BS. It's not really that hard to scan a resume in 30 seconds and determine if that person has the skill set you are looking for. Just don't depend on a recruiting firm to send you candidates - bad ones will send everyone and their mother to interview.

That said, I've interviewed some people for software positions who had all sorts of acronyms (e.g. SQL, HTML) on their resume and yet couldn't speak intelligently about any of them.

Papa_Complex · 06-08-2010, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pdog

Personally I think ignoring the unemployed is BS. It's not really that hard to scan a resume in 30 seconds and determine if that person has the skill set you are looking for. Just don't depend on a recruiting firm to send you candidates - bad ones will send everyone and their mother to interview.

That said, I've interviewed some people for software positions who had all sorts of acronyms (e.g. SQL, HTML) on their resume and yet couldn't speak intelligently about any of them.

When I had to vet resumes, I found that fully 75% of them were professionally prepared. That tells you nothing about the candidate, apart from the fact he doesn't trust his written skills. Essentially all of those got tossed, on spec.

pdog · 06-09-2010, 01:12 AM

Exactly, I think that's a valid reason to toss a resume. But unemployment isn't, IMO, it happens for many reasons, not just because the person sucks at their job.

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

When I had to vet resumes, I found that fully 75% of them were professionally prepared. That tells you nothing about the candidate, apart from the fact he doesn't trust his written skills. Essentially all of those got tossed, on spec.

RACER X · 06-09-2010, 02:29 PM

Huh, no comments....

RACER X · 06-11-2010, 12:09 AM

Friend called from my old project, she just got her 2 wk notice

BP came thru and said lop off another 25% of the remaining crew. No engineers left except the lead, guess all 30 or so engineers that started must a all sucked.

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06-11-2010, 12:09 AM	#10
RACER X AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Richmond, Tx Moto: '10 Tuono Factory Posts: 4,569	Friend called from my old project, she just got her 2 wk notice BP came thru and said lop off another 25% of the remaining crew. No engineers left except the lead, guess all 30 or so engineers that started must a all sucked. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ 2014 GROM! 181cc of FURY 2010 Aprilia Tuono Factory - SOLD 2009 SFV Gladius - SOLD 2008 Hayabusa - SOLD.

06-08-2010, 05:12 PM	#1
HurricaneHeather AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sydney Moto: '98 Honda Fireblade Posts: 3,696	My company did layoffs last year in one department. I have two friends in that department who made considerably LESS $ than their teammates. They were the only two to keep their jobs. If person A will do all this work for $50k, but person B makes $75k doing the same job, then person A gets to keep their 50k while person B is sent home. It's not about performance...it's about money. And it sucks that they are doing that, but it doesn't suck that they are honest about it in their posting.

06-08-2010, 05:15 PM	#3
HurricaneHeather AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sydney Moto: '98 Honda Fireblade Posts: 3,696	AND...I tell my clients all the time to include an assessment on their job postings. If you require X experience, then make every applicant answer the question "Do you have X experience?" Some will lie, but it will weed a lot of folks out. A little planning when you post the job goes a long way.

06-08-2010, 05:22 PM	#4
HurricaneHeather AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sydney Moto: '98 Honda Fireblade Posts: 3,696	Yeah I could see that...

06-08-2010, 05:29 PM	#5
wildchild cruiser Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: on the run Moto: '09 HD superglide, 16 Yamaha FZ 09 Posts: 2,749	it's not a new thing. when I was unemployed I decided to go ahead and follow a different path that I really want to do anyway. driving over the road. yeah when I called to talk to them first thing they said was oops sorry you've been unemployed too long and we can't consider you for employment. next time I get laid off I'm calling them the next day.

06-08-2010, 08:13 PM	#6
pdog Refugee Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Moto: Pimped 2005 SV650 Posts: 332	Personally I think ignoring the unemployed is BS. It's not really that hard to scan a resume in 30 seconds and determine if that person has the skill set you are looking for. Just don't depend on a recruiting firm to send you candidates - bad ones will send everyone and their mother to interview. That said, I've interviewed some people for software positions who had all sorts of acronyms (e.g. SQL, HTML) on their resume and yet couldn't speak intelligently about any of them.