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Old 08-14-2009, 08:07 PM   #31
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For instance, my Lab gets the ball thrown for her as a positive reinforcement but that doesn't work for my San Miguel dog.
I do the same thing with my lab. She's always playing with a ball, if I throw it for her for a while, she knows she was being good, if I take it away she was bad. When we go for a walk, if she listens well the whole way, I play fetch with her in the river on the way back. If she's bad, I dont let her in the water, and bring her straight home.

She is barely ever misbehaved. Except she gets really excited when people come in. And you can leave for 10 minutes and come back, and you'd swear she hadnt seen you in a year.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:34 PM   #32
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Wait a minute. You can get a degree in DOG psychology??
People get degrees in photography (or anything you want). How pathetic is that degree? I can go to flickr and find 200,000 pictures of a butterfly on a flower in a park in black and white, with half of them taken by a 12 year old girl with a Kodak point and shoot.

Kaneman. What's your opinion on that it's me or the dog lady? I've heard a lot of "dog" people say they hate her, but I'm not sure if that's just the "She's damn good so she sucks" mentallity or if there are problems with her training.
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Old 08-14-2009, 08:53 PM   #33
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Kaneman. What's your opinion on that it's me or the dog lady? I've heard a lot of "dog" people say they hate her, but I'm not sure if that's just the "She's damn good so she sucks" mentallity or if there are problems with her training.
She's good at what she does but I think her methods really stretch dog and human patience levels. I don't think she could "rehab" an aggressive animal, like Michael Vick's dogs that are at Dogtown, but for the average problem dog she does great. Everyone's methods are going to vary a little so its important to find what works best for you.

Look at Cesar Milan (who a lot of "dog people" also hate, such as the SPCA.) Cesar can take any dog and make them sociable, but if I were to try to exactly replicate what he does it wouldn't work.
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Old 08-14-2009, 11:31 PM   #34
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haha. What does it mean?
It means that your dog is the king shit of your yard, and will piss on anyone that trys to say otherwise.
It really is a territory thing, dogs mark there's, and try to eliminate any other sents in their area.
Do you hunt at all with him? He obviously knows how to follow a scent!

As far as the OP's question... Nothing. I'll train the dog myself, but that's just me. I have no idea what a trainer is worth.
And yes, I'm extremely pissed that I will not be here for my dogs first hunting season.
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Old 08-15-2009, 12:22 AM   #35
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We took our Shepherd to a day school program. It took the trainers about 12 weeks to train him in advanced obedience on and off leash. He went to school four days a week 8 hours a day and was trained for 15 minutes every hour.

After he was trained it was time for us to learn how to control and work with him. My wife and I both went to all the sessions and really took the training seriously. It took us another 12 weeks or so till we really worked out all the little issues we had with our dog.

Best part is the training never ends. If he starts to lose something we can bring him right back. I work with him everyday so he wont lose anything but it's nice to know that we can if we need too.

Total price for training was $1600. Consider the fact that my wife has total control over our 80 pound German Shepherd and I say it's money well spent.
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We took our Shepherd to a day school program. It took the trainers about 12 weeks to train him in advanced obedience on and off leash. He went to school four days a week 8 hours a day and was trained for 15 minutes every hour.

After he was trained it was time for us to learn how to control and work with him. My wife and I both went to all the sessions and really took the training seriously. It took us another 12 weeks or so till we really worked out all the little issues we had with our dog.

Best part is the training never ends. If he starts to lose something we can bring him right back. I work with him everyday so he wont lose anything but it's nice to know that we can if we need too.

Total price for training was $1600. Consider the fact that my wife has total control over our 80 pound German Shepherd and I say it's money well spent.
Thats a beautiful dog. I love Shepherds.

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Old 08-15-2009, 11:35 PM   #37
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Look at Cesar Milan (who a lot of "dog people" also hate, such as the SPCA.) Cesar can take any dog and make them sociable, but if I were to try to exactly replicate what he does it wouldn't work.
Why do they hate Cesar Milan? I think he's great!
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Why do they hate Cesar Milan? I think he's great!
They claim his methods border on animal abuse, especially the "flooding" that he does to break a dog's fear. The problem is they've never tried to work with dogs as damaged as Cesar does and apparently don't understand what it takes.
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I am now doing dog training on weekends. I'm a retired K-9 popo with thousands of hours of dog schools. everything from basic obedience to handler protection. prices are $100 per hour. Pm me.
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Old 08-17-2009, 12:15 PM   #40
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I taught my Lab to swim by tossing his ass in the deep end of the pool. He sunk for a second and quickly realized that if he paddled his legs he could swim. Now I can't keep him out of the water.

BTW...my wife DID NOT approve of this "training" method.
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