Bye-Bye Pontiac

[unknownroad]

Of all the divisions, they're keeping Buick??? W.T.F.

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by unknownroad

Of all the divisions, they're keeping Buick??? W.T.F.

Right?

[njchopper87]

Originally Posted by unknownroad

Of all the divisions, they're keeping Buick??? W.T.F.

Word..

I liked Pontiac. I wanted a Firebird for the longest time.. It sucks to see such a big brand be let go.

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Last year Pontiac was GM's THIRD LARGEST SELLING BRAND behind Chevy and GMC.

Putting history aside, this is just fucking retarded.

agreed... they should pump some life back in by putting the performance back in. If they want to get rid of a dying brand (because their customer demographic is a dying breed... literally) can Buick. It's on life support just like a lot of its clientele...

ETA: shit, I didn't see the Buick comment until after I posted. Great minds etc etc

[pauldun170]

What I have been hearing is that despite pontiacs sales their profits margins sucked?
I don't know so much bs is floating around.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by unknownroad

Of all the divisions, they're keeping Buick??? W.T.F.

Very strong owner loyalty

(among the 60+ set)

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by CasterTroy

Not according to CNBC this weekend....the report was saying that saturn had failed to even break even since it was introduced, never making GM a profit or becoming strong enough to be it's own division.

They made a profit in 1993..lol

That was it though.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Hummer should go to the US military. Soccer moms don't need that fucking shit.

We don't need fucking Saab. Sell it.

Saturn needs to go back to being what made it so great in the first place: It was a "clean sheet of paper" division that didn't have to conform to corporate "rules" as much. This fosters innovation.

Olds should have never gone. It was GM's oldest marque, and the Intrigue was said to be a nice car, and their new V8 engines had the benefit of some race engineering. They really weren't making your fathers fucking Oldsmobarge anymore.

Pontiac was the 3rd largest seller last year. The G-8 is a spectacular fucking car. It's a little BMW sized thing, that's actually HUGE on the inside, and comes with a Vette drivetrain; V8/6sp/Posi ...what's not to love? Them Mad Max mofos like their V8s, and Holdens are the shit.

I've said it before - they should have consolidated BOP (Buick Olds Pontiac). You don't need an entry in every segment for each brand. Every division doesn't need a fucking NOVA (remember the "NOVA" cars?...Nova/Omega/Ventura/Astra?) with merely a different grill. Each brand need only make a few key cars, and your BOP/GMC consolidated dealers would sell it to you. This way, time honored brands needn't die out, the market is well served, and GM can be more lean overall.

Losing these brand names is so stupid, it borders on corporate advertising suicide. Even the youngest ad exec knows the value of such well established brand name identities.

These motherfuckers make a gazillion cars even on a BAD year - more than enough to spread some badges out across.

This is so stupid it hurts.

Agree with all of it.....Olds shouldn't have been let go..neither should Saturn. Saturn needs to go back to making small cheap efficient cars..not 20k Astras.

Ditch Saab and Hummer...

There should be 5 brands..Cadillac, Saturn, Chevy, Olds and Pontiac.

Ditch GMC and Buick IMO (it crowds Caddy too much)...Chevy is the same shit.

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Very strong owner loyalty

(among the 60+ set)

loyalty? They think they'll be repeat buyers?

[Homeslice]

Buick and Caddy are way different, IMO.
Caddy is for the wannabe-pimp who thinks he's all that.
Buick is for people with very conservative personalities.......Totally different.