GM to shrink to four core brands in North America

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Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor

There's something Buick should bring back... unfortunately they probably couldn't do it justice anymore.

Agreed! I'll never forgive myself. My step-mom worked for GM and could have gotten me a GN at a cheap price but I hated her so much that I bought a RX-7 instead....

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Your "bud" is just as much of a buffon as you if he thinks that the Camry platform forms the basis for "most" of Lexus's lineup.

...and you have got to be kidding me if having a buddy mechanic at a dealership give weight to your post.

He is a Powertrain Mechanical Engineer for Toyota Motor America...not a mechanic.

Sharing a platform among vehicle lines isn't anything new nor does it matter in terms of how the vehicle drives. There are a ton of other different stuff that makes a vehicle ride/handle the way it does.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

And as far as the Camry goes? Show me any manufacturer who has ever taken a FWD sedan and shared its platform with a RWD sedan (Lexus LS, GS and IS).........Doesn't happen.

The drivetrain doesn't matter if your changing the chassis anyway. I'm not saying the chassis is a Silverado vs. Sierra, but they start with a devleoped chassis and make changes.

Do you think a GTI and a Rabbit chassis is the same? They actually have very different chassis.

[Homeslice]

Huh? GTI is just a hopped-up Rabbit, always has been. Just because they might use different struts & springs doesn't mean it's a different chassis.

Chassis = basically just the stamped underbody, including the firewall & shock towers

[Corey]

Originally Posted by Adeptus_Minor

There's something Buick should bring back... unfortunately they probably couldn't do it justice anymore.

Or they'd water it down by rebadging an Opel or a Holden car. And yes, I'm sure the recent GTO is a nice car, but it's still just a rebadged Holden that should never have gotten the GTO name.

[Adeptus_Minor]

Originally Posted by Corey

Or they'd water it down by rebadging an Opel or a Holden car. And yes, I'm sure the recent GTO is a nice car, but it's still just a rebadged Holden that should never have gotten the GTO name.

I was kind of excited about the GTO... the preliminary info was promising.
But seeing so many up for sale by owners since tells me something.

That and the red gauges are garish.

[Cutty72]

The first year GTO looked like a 2 door Grand Prix.
Once they got hood scoops and a spoiler it was better. And the things SCOOT, but nothing will compare in looks to the 02 T/A WS6 that they dropped.

[pauldun170]

101Lifts - Do you know what a platform is?

are you seriously stupid enough where you think if a car shares the same power steering pump and window washer pump that it's on the same platform?


fucking hell you've lost your goddamn mind.
what did those little japanese people do you at isuzu?

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To be honest,I'm only skimming this thread but am I to understand that some of you think that shared parts and platforms is a BAD thing? If I ran GM EVERY FUCKING GM CAR would use the same alternator,battery,window motor,starter,sunroof,etc. It is completely retarded for a Chevy car to use a different battery if it has power windows or not.

[Adeptus_Minor]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

The first year GTO looked like a 2 door Grand Prix.
Once they got hood scoops and a spoiler it was better. And the things SCOOT, but nothing will compare in looks to the 02 T/A WS6 that they dropped.

The TA's had a little too much bodywork for my tastes.
F-bodys have always been more muscle car than sports car and to give them all that bodywork seemed like trying to squeeze them into a mold they weren't meant to fill.