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Old 04-15-2009, 11:37 AM   #41
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Old 04-16-2009, 03:34 PM   #42
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meh. There is seriously no elan in stuffing an ugly pushrod motor in anything it didnt come in no matter the performance
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Old 04-16-2009, 04:18 PM   #43
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meh. There is seriously no elan in stuffing an ugly pushrod motor in anything it didnt come in no matter the performance
Enjoy your elan as this is blowing your doors off.

Where else are you going to get 450+ hp for under $7k that doesn't add significantly to the weight of the car? I would love to put the 260 horse Cosworth 2 liter in something, but I am certainly not going to pay $20k+ plus for it. A Hartley Enterprises Busa based V8 would also be fun, as would an RS Performance RST-V8 but those make the Cosworth look cheap. While I am no big fan of GM they have impressed me with what they have been able to acomplish with the LS series motors.
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Enjoy your elan as this is blowing your doors off.

Where else are you going to get 450+ hp for under $7k that doesn't add significantly to the weight of the car? I would love to put the 260 horse Cosworth 2 liter in something, but I am certainly not going to pay $20k+ plus for it. A Hartley Enterprises Busa based V8 would also be fun, as would an RS Performance RST-V8 but those make the Cosworth look cheap. While I am no big fan of GM they have impressed me with what they have been able to acomplish with the LS series motors.
we were JUST talking about 2.2/2.5s and you want to say 450 with a 7k limit?

i remember saying stock block too. not somebody elses stock block. and you shoulda been impressed with the LT5. how many years did i take them to match its power with pushrods? 15?
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we were JUST talking about 2.2/2.5s and you want to say 450 with a 7k limit?
Well, if Dodge motors from the POSbox era turboed to the moon don't scream elan I really don't know what does.

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i remember saying stock block too. not somebody elses stock block. and you shoulda been impressed with the LT5. how many years did i take them to match its power with pushrods? 15?
Too bad GM needed Lotus to design the heads and Mercury Marine to build the things. No matter how long it took, you can easily surpass the power of the LT5 with a few different LS crate motors direct from GM.
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Well, if Dodge motors from the POSbox era turboed to the moon don't scream elan I really don't know what does.



Too bad GM needed Lotus to design the heads and Mercury Marine to build the things. No matter how long it took, you can easily surpass the power of the LT5 with a few different LS crate motors direct from GM.
hey im just sayin if they took lessons learned from the zr1 and engineered off of that the current crop of engines would be far more impressive
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hey im just sayin if they took lessons learned from the zr1 and engineered off of that the current crop of engines would be far more impressive
How much more impressive do you need over a 500 hp dry sump engine that gets 24 mpg highway, a 6.2 liter factory crate motor making over 500 hp, or a lightly supercharged 6.2 liter that makes 640 hp. That is also with stricter emissions standards than the LT5 had to contend with.

Of course you could also factor in the new LSx block GM has come out with that takes LS series parts and is rated for up to 2,500 hp.
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I am sorry but a V8 in a Miata just doesn't suit it. You would be spinning your tires everywhere at only 1/10th throttle, with that short wheelbase and light weight. Power isn't fun if you can't get it to the ground easily.

I have seen FD RX-7's with LS motors, and that is a much better marriage imo.
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How much more impressive do you need over a 500 hp dry sump engine that gets 24 mpg highway, a 6.2 liter factory crate motor making over 500 hp, or a lightly supercharged 6.2 liter that makes 640 hp. That is also with stricter emissions standards than the LT5 had to contend with.

Of course you could also factor in the new LSx block GM has come out with that takes LS series parts and is rated for up to 2,500 hp.
DO NOT get me started on the new "zr1". its pathetic to charge that much money for a car you could build with aftermarket parts. and has a fisher price interior on top of it.
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I am sorry but a V8 in a Miata just doesn't suit it. You would be spinning your tires everywhere at only 1/10th throttle, with that short wheelbase and light weight. Power isn't fun if you can't get it to the ground easily.

I have seen FD RX-7's with LS motors, and that is a much better marriage imo.

13b would be a much better fit
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