Who plays videogames, and what are you playing?

[pauldun170]

PS4 and Xbox screenshots I've seen look meh. Looks great from far away and if you are coming from an older console they would look great but to me they are just meh.

It think those impressed with console graphics are accustomed to low end PC's, low end discrete cards or onboard graphics.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

PS4 and Xbox screenshots I've seen look meh. Looks great from far away and if you are coming from an older console they would look great but to me they are just meh.

It think those impressed with console graphics are accustomed to low end PC's, low end discrete cards or onboard graphics.

Developers are having enormous trouble getting games to run at 1080p at 60fps on both consoles right now. Especially with the Xbox One. Most of the launch games are 720p. 1080p is pretty much the standard in a decent PC right now and most of them are running well over 60 fps at that 1080p.

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Trip

Developers are having enormous trouble getting games to run at 1080p at 60fps on both consoles right now. Especially with the Xbox One. Most of the launch games are 720p. 1080p is pretty much the standard in a decent PC right now and most of them are running well over 60 fps at that 1080p.

Yup.
They noticed some slowdowns COD ghosts in PS4 (720p upscaled to 1080p) compared to Xbox (720p)

That's a fairly lightweight game.

PC gaming is beginning the ramp up to 4k while consoles are struggling at 1080p.

However I would recommend consoles for most people. It is the cheaper way to game. You get what you pay for

[Trip]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Yup.
They noticed some slowdowns COD ghosts in PS4 (720p upscaled to 1080p) compared to Xbox (720p)

That's a fairly lightweight game.

PC gaming is beginning the ramp up to 4k while consoles are struggling at 1080p.

However I would recommend consoles for most people. It is the cheaper way to game. You get what you pay for

I agree, I had this argument last night with sixxxxer on facebook. Best way I chose to describe it was Toyota vs Ferrari. Lots of people buy Toyotas and Toyota makes a ton of money. They are reliable, cheap, and a great daily driver. It's good for anyone who wants a decent vehilce. Ferrari is a much more specialized high end performance car. Not everyone needs or can afford it.

He just kept going around in circles about how consoles make more money. I said that from the beginning and that pc gamers were the minority. It was funny.

I have always been more inclined to go PC because of how great the level of simulation you can get on PC games vs console. Games like ARMA or the high end racing simulations just don't work on console. They are too boring for the 5 minute deathmatch crowd to absorb and for the consoles to be able to run smoothly.

[EpyonXero]

I tend to play slow twitch (Civilization, Skyrim, Total War) games on my desktop and fast twitch games on a console. I like console games because the good ones are optimized for the system and the control input. I know when I play AssCreed 4 tomorrow its going to look the way it does in the demo videos and the controls will be designed for the PS4 controller. Compare that with BF3 on my iMac which was still enjoyable but it took some time to find the best balance in settings and map the controls. I ended up buying a flight stick because trying to fly jets and helos was nearly impossible without one.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by EpyonXero

I tend to play slow twitch (Civilization, Skyrim, Total War) games on my desktop and fast twitch games on a console. I like console games because the good ones are optimized for the system and the control input. I know when I play AssCreed 4 tomorrow its going to look the way it does in the demo videos and the controls will be designed for the PS4 controller. Compare that with BF3 on my iMac which was still enjoyable but it took some time to find the best balance in settings and map the controls. I ended up buying a flight stick because trying to fly jets and helos was nearly impossible without one.

That's the difference between a simulation gamer and a battlefield gamer. In simulation, you most likely won't be flying without a stick. Most people won't be flying anyway. The pilots will be exceptional, most people will be the grunts. The snipers aren't going to be some noob with a computer that cant render 2000m away where the snipers should be sitting.

FPS games control a lot better on PC, just look at how much more control with a mouse you have over a stick. You can't optimize the differences between the slow movement vs fast movement and how much freedom you have in space to move the mouse. The tiny difference between center stick and the end of movement of the stick just can't compete.

[Porkchop]

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/...tion-4-systems

Broken early release consoles already popping up all over the place. IGN's test mule crashed on the first day. Taco Bell contestant winners having problems, including a system that didn't even work from the box. And it begins....

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Trip

FPS games control a lot better on PC, just look at how much more control with a mouse you have over a stick. You can't optimize the differences between the slow movement vs fast movement and how much freedom you have in space to move the mouse. The tiny difference between center stick and the end of movement of the stick just can't compete.

I agree 100%. I've tried FPS games on consoles and really don't like it. I find the mouse/keyboard combo so much better to use than either a PS3 or Xbox controller. I haven't had a gaming PC in probably 8 years and except for a few brief attempts at console FPS games I haven't played them since.

[Rangerscott]

Plus the hit detection.

[Rangerscott]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRpbIFuDx0Q#t=97