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Old 09-12-2009, 02:55 PM   #51
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Josh was with us down here when he picked up Loki as a 6 week old pup.
And I still think "Kanedog" would've had a nice ring to it!! lol
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Old 09-12-2009, 02:59 PM   #52
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Hahahahahahahahaha


Ya know, it was our old Boxer, Raja who LOVED you
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Old 09-12-2009, 03:01 PM   #53
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Hahahahahahahahaha


Ya know, it was our old Boxer, Raja who LOVED you
That's one of the coolest dogs I've ever been around. Damn dog used to wake me up every night to hang out.
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Old 09-12-2009, 03:23 PM   #54
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Food for thought.

I've owned ABPT's my entire life, since I was a child. We also had Labs and other dogs too.

Guess what I got bitten by?? My nice gentle labrador. ( 18 stitches.)
Never once been bitten my a pit, either mine or any others.

My training of my pits is the same as Josh's.

See honey, that's the problem. In one sentence pit owners say, "you can't judge an entire breed based on isolated incidences" and in another they give their one dog as an indication of the entire breed's temperament. The thing is your or Kaneman's couple good dog stories are no more important or compelling than any two vicious dog stories. Besides, I can tell a story about a Chihuahua that bit me when I was 12, show me a story where one killed a 3 year old child or got out and viciously attacked and killed a neighbor's pair of poodles. My opinion is that Labradors can be raised mean and Pit Bulls can be raised nice but in both cases, effort has to be made.

Besides, I'm sure you all will deny this but I find it hard to believe when people try and tell me they get dogs with vicious reputations NOT because they are "bad ass" but because they are "cute, gentle and wonderful family pets". That's like me trying to say that I didn't buy my Busa or GSXRs because of their performance reputation. I mean if that's why, then why clip the ears and tail to give them that mean, aggressive look? When my dog goes out, I have zero concern that he'll attack any people or other dogs. Can all of you pit owners honestly say the same? Remember that's ZERO concern.
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When my dog goes out, I have zero concern that he'll attack any people or other dogs. Can all of you pit owners honestly say the same? Remember that's ZERO concern.
Yes, I can say I honestly have zero concern that my Pit will ever bite a human (that isn't breaking into my house anyway). No effort has to be made to make a Pit Bull "nice", that is their natural temperament.

I hate getting dragged into the classic Pit Bull argument. I should've given this thread a different title I suppose.
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Old 09-12-2009, 03:39 PM   #56
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How many Golden Retrievers get these kind of headlines? This was a pit puppy btw.

http://www.witn.com/crime/headlines/56347087.html

There's another story where the family dog attacked a 5 year old but I can't find it. I'm not saying that Pitbulls are inherently evil or anything BUT I do honestly believe that they are much more aggressive than say a Labrador on average. I don't understand why some of you are trying to deny that.
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Yes, I can say I honestly have zero concern that my Pit will ever bite a human (that isn't breaking into my house anyway). No effort has to be made to make a Pit Bull "nice", that is their natural temperament.

I hate getting dragged into the classic Pit Bull argument. I should've given this thread a different title I suppose.

Yea, let's drop it. There's no real point to this debate. I've grown up around pits and I think that for the most part, they are a decent dog but no one can deny that they were specifically bred to be aggressive. I won't call you a liar but I've never gone into a house with a Pitbull in 13 years in the service industry where the customer wasn't concerned that the dog might bite me.
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How many Golden Retrievers get these kind of headlines? This was a pit puppy btw.

http://www.witn.com/crime/headlines/56347087.html

There's another story where the family dog attacked a 5 year old but I can't find it. I'm not saying that Pitbulls are inherently evil or anything BUT I do honestly believe that they are much more aggressive than say a Labrador on average. I don't understand why some of you are trying to deny that.
Because you're being misled. As I stated, my female choc lab is much more likely to bite a human than my other two dogs.

"Family dog" is subjective and often refers to a dog who's lived its life in the back yard chained or otherwise without any formal training or structure. Also as previously stated, Pit Bulls attract scum. If you read the story you linked to you'll notice that the person in possession of the dog at the time of the incident was a friend of the owner....he was watching the dog because the owner was in jail. Puppies chew things, they should never be left alone with babies.

Golden Retrievers don't get those kind of headlines because the media isn't interested for the most part. But Goldens also have the luxury of having owners who tend to care more for their dogs than Pit Bull owners. Yes, Golden Retrievers bite people. However, just to prove the point:

http://www.citytv.com/toronto/cityne...-mauled-by-dog
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FYI, my Pits ears are NOT cropped, nor is his tail.
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Old 09-12-2009, 03:55 PM   #60
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FYI, my Pits ears are NOT cropped, nor is his tail.
Yea I know, trust me, when people start bashing on GSXRs I have just as hard of a time not taking it personally! BTW I like the way your dog looks, I think the cropping make the dogs look evil.
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