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Old 12-07-2010, 11:20 PM   #61
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I would say that his time in State and Federal Senate trumps her Governorship, based on what she was the Governor of and who actually ran the place (ie. "not her"), and any of the community outreach efforts that he was in at least matches the experience she had as mayor of a bump in the road like Wasilla.
Really? Is that why governors tend to end up as presidents?

Palin may be a stupid bitch, but Obama is one ignorant, incompetent fucker.
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Old 12-07-2010, 11:49 PM   #62
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Governors tend to end up as President because they look good on paper. Bush is the most classic example. Ivy league degrees, fighter pilot, businessperson, Governor...........All that shit looks damn good on paper. But how did it work out in real life?
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Old 12-08-2010, 12:44 AM   #63
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Which he didn't do all the time. You might want to check out how many others had no vote on issues (excused, absent, present, etc.), while you're casting stones:

http://www.votesmart.org/

Then again Palin had professional managerial staff who performed the lion's share of her duties as Governor for three years.
as will the president... the mark of a great executive is his ability to DELEGATE! To manage other people. What do you think, that good old BO does everything himself? This is why I despise political debate, it never makes any damn sense. You constantly point fingers at the other side accusing them of the same things that you do yourself. Pointless.
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Old 12-08-2010, 12:57 AM   #64
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Governors tend to end up as President because they look good on paper. Bush is the most classic example. Ivy league degrees, fighter pilot, businessperson, Governor...........All that shit looks damn good on paper. But how did it work out in real life?
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as will the president... the mark of a great executive is his ability to DELEGATE! To manage other people. What do you think, that good old BO does everything himself? This is why I despise political debate, it never makes any damn sense. You constantly point fingers at the other side accusing them of the same things that you do yourself. Pointless.
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as will the president... the mark of a great executive is his ability to DELEGATE! To manage other people. What do you think, that good old BO does everything himself? This is why I despise political debate, it never makes any damn sense. You constantly point fingers at the other side accusing them of the same things that you do yourself. Pointless.
Sure, every leader delegates, but some actually listen to their subordinates and analyze what they're saying. Based on what I've read from people who have worked for Bush & Palin, they didn't do that very well. They either had their mind made up already (Bush), or were too ditsy to figure out & apply what was being told to them.
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Sure, every leader delegates, but some actually listen to their subordinates and analyze what they're saying. Based on what I've read from people who have worked for Bush & Palin, they didn't do that very well. They either had their mind made up already (Bush), or were too ditsy to figure out & apply what was being told to them.
Whatever... I have some 34DDs waiting for me in bed. I have no idea whom you've read but I've read that libs were accusing Bush of listening to his advisors TOO MUCH (Iraq). Now you say that he didn't listen enough. Again political debates, you take one side to prove one point, then jump to the exact opposite side to prove another...yeesh.
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Well you know where it's going....

Statement at around 2:35
Or how about 5:00 on this one

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Good catch. I was actually looking for the scene in which the President says he's going to nuke some country for not doing what he wants.
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as will the president... the mark of a great executive is his ability to DELEGATE! To manage other people. What do you think, that good old BO does everything himself? This is why I despise political debate, it never makes any damn sense. You constantly point fingers at the other side accusing them of the same things that you do yourself. Pointless.
No. but I think that someone in charge should do SOMETHING, other than make speeches and politically motivated appearances. Palin didn't do a whole lot other than that, in her time as Governor. Well, I guess she at least hired some guy to do her job for her.

Then there's that little issue of putting Wasilla in debt for the next 50 years, so that she could say she built them the greatest hockey arena in Alaska
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