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Old 05-14-2012, 12:22 AM   #1
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My friend has a 650 V-Strom. The front cylinder's exhaust pipe is a 1/4 inch at the bottom from the oil cooler.



We decided to wrap the pipe with fiberglass heat wrap. We used gloves to avoid the glass fibers. We put the black fiberglass in water first and then wrapped. What a mess. We used pipe clamps to keep the ends of the wrap from unraveling.


The next day he took the bike out and the gauge registered hotter. We cut the fiberglass off after that. We're not sure why the bike didn't run cooler.
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The next day he took the bike out and the gauge registered hotter. We cut the fiberglass off after that. We're not sure why the bike didn't run cooler.
Exhaust wrap is actually meant to increase the exhaust and header gas temps.

Since an engine is basically a big air pump, the faster you can move the air, the faster the engine goes, (up to a point).

The idea behind exhaust wrap, is to heat the exhaust so that the density of the exhaust decreases. The lower the density, the faster lower temp intake gases will flow towards it. It's like wind at the beach. The hotter the land mass, the faster the wind will blow cooler air on shore.

Problem is, the hotter exhaust gas, means a hotter pipe, which means a hotter head and cylinder, which means you've gone backwards in the cooling department.

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Exhaust wrap is actually meant to increase the exhaust and header gas temps.

Since an engine is basically a big air pump, the faster you can move the air, the faster the engine goes, (up to a point).

The idea behind exhaust wrap, is to heat the exhaust so that the density of the exhaust decreases. The lower the density, the faster lower temp intake gases will flow towards it. It's like wind at the beach. The hotter the land mass, the faster the wind will blow cooler air on shore.

Problem is, the hotter exhaust gas, means a hotter pipe, which means a hotter head and cylinder, which means you've gone backwards in the cooling department.

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Why are you trying to get it to run cooler?
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Have you considered relocating the oil cooler? Many of the skid plates require relocation of the oil cooler to a vertical position at the side. I haven't done that to mine, but know it's a possibility. Touratech sells a relocation kit. Here's a link to the kit on their website. http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/1...-V-Strom-DL650

Here's a pic of a modified oil cooler that's been relocated as I described.


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Why are you trying to get it to run cooler?
Just thought it was bad engineering to have the oil cooler right behind the exhaust pipe. Seems that the cooler was taking in more heat than it was expelling.

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Have you considered relocating the oil cooler? Many of the skid plates require relocation of the oil cooler to a vertical position at the side. I haven't done that to mine, but know it's a possibility. Touratech sells a relocation kit. Here's a link to the kit on their website. http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/1...-V-Strom-DL650

Here's a pic of a modified oil cooler that's been relocated as I described.

Thanks Captain, that looks cool.
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Exhaust wrap is actually meant to increase the exhaust and header gas temps.

Since an engine is basically a big air pump, the faster you can move the air, the faster the engine goes, (up to a point).

The idea behind exhaust wrap, is to heat the exhaust so that the density of the exhaust decreases. The lower the density, the faster lower temp intake gases will flow towards it. It's like wind at the beach. The hotter the land mass, the faster the wind will blow cooler air on shore.

Problem is, the hotter exhaust gas, means a hotter pipe, which means a hotter head and cylinder, which means you've gone backwards in the cooling department.

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That sounds right. He just saw the temp gauge higher. I don't think he noticed if the bike was any faster.
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That sounds right. He just saw the temp gauge higher. I don't think he noticed if the bike was any faster.
Any gains in performance would be modest at best.

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Any gains in performance would be modest at best.

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What crack are you smoking? That .05 hp gain from the wrap adds enough go to make rossi run for his money
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