Go Back   Two Wheel Fix > In the Garage or Shop > Aftermarket Modding

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-25-2008, 12:41 PM   #1
Amber Lamps
Moto GP Star
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 14,556
Default Gilles Shift Shaft Support

Ok,I know I mentioned the shaft support when I posted about my bike but now that I've had a chance to ride my bike in a more "sport" oriented fashion,I just wanted to do a short review.
No one has even accused the GSXR of being a bad shifter,infact it's considered by many to be quite "smooth" but there was room for improvement and it has come in the form of this support from Gilles, http://www.gillestooling.com/en/produkte/sp/index.php. The piece is extremely simple in construction and form. Quite frankly,I doubted the veracity of Gilles' claim upon first inspection. I was severely mistaken! Gilles has identified a problem and correctly addressed it! This small piece of aluminum has taken a good shifting bike and tranformed it into perfection. I cannot get the bike to miss a shift now. No matter how "choppy" of "abrupt" I try to shift,it always goes into the next or previous gear perfectly. Infact,it ALMOST shifts too easily. 1st to 2nd is buttery smooth and accessing the remainder of the gearbox is effortless. I reccomend this part to anyone who owns a bike they manfacture one for. I paid about $60 for mine and it was worth every cent. Trust me,you will not be disappointed!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSCF0972.JPG (271.8 KB, 45 views)
Amber Lamps is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2008, 02:11 PM   #2
Phenix_Rider
WERA White Plate
 
Phenix_Rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Renton, WA
Moto: Ninja 650R
Posts: 1,920
Default

What's it do? Just extend the flange on the case out another 1/4"?
__________________
Quote:
So you think you're ready to ride? So if i ran up to you with a belt sander would you feel safe????
Phenix_Rider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2008, 03:02 PM   #3
Amber Lamps
Moto GP Star
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 14,556
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider View Post
What's it do? Just extend the flange on the case out another 1/4"?
Basically,but you have to understand that the engine case doesn't support the shaft,for the most part. So,as it explains in the link I provided,the shaft is entended some distance from any support which allows it to flex and not transfer the complete motion of the shift arm. Causing vauge and/or missed shifts. They are right. If you take the shift arm off the shaft and try to move it laterally,on most bikes,you'll find that it moves very easily. Like I said previously,it's very simple but VERY effective! BTW,they don't make one for your bike.
Amber Lamps is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2008, 03:13 PM   #4
Phenix_Rider
WERA White Plate
 
Phenix_Rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Renton, WA
Moto: Ninja 650R
Posts: 1,920
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TIGGER View Post
Basically,but you have to understand that the engine case doesn't support the shaft,for the most part. So,as it explains in the link I provided,the shaft is entended some distance from any support which allows it to flex and not transfer the complete motion of the shift arm. Causing vauge and/or missed shifts. They are right. If you take the shift arm off the shaft and try to move it laterally,on most bikes,you'll find that it moves very easily. Like I said previously,it's very simple but VERY effective! BTW,they don't make one for your bike.
Wouldn't expect them to. Everyone's GOT to have a supersport.
__________________
Quote:
So you think you're ready to ride? So if i ran up to you with a belt sander would you feel safe????
Phenix_Rider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2008, 03:57 PM   #5
Amber Lamps
Moto GP Star
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 14,556
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phenix_Rider View Post
Wouldn't expect them to. Everyone's GOT to have a supersport.
Also,your bike might not need it...
Amber Lamps is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-25-2008, 09:41 PM   #6
Phenix_Rider
WERA White Plate
 
Phenix_Rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Renton, WA
Moto: Ninja 650R
Posts: 1,920
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TIGGER View Post
Also,your bike might not need it...
Hey, it works just fine for me. May be a "budget" bike, but I've never missed a shift- other than (rarely) first to second/second to first. But that's expected of any bike, especially with the Kawi positive neutral finder.
__________________
Quote:
So you think you're ready to ride? So if i ran up to you with a belt sander would you feel safe????
Phenix_Rider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2008, 12:28 AM   #7
ceo012384
Pompous Prick
 
ceo012384's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: MA
Moto: 06 R6 (race), 04 CRF Tard (race)
Posts: 3,040
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TIGGER View Post
Basically,but you have to understand that the engine case doesn't support the shaft,for the most part. So,as it explains in the link I provided,the shaft is entended some distance from any support which allows it to flex and not transfer the complete motion of the shift arm. Causing vauge and/or missed shifts. They are right. If you take the shift arm off the shaft and try to move it laterally,on most bikes,you'll find that it moves very easily. Like I said previously,it's very simple but VERY effective! BTW,they don't make one for your bike.
So if it essentially transforms the shift shaft from a cantilevered beam to a simply supported beam (two points), that thing fucking better have a bearing pressed into it. I assume it does? If so that's a great idea and a good investment.
ceo012384 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2008, 01:42 AM   #8
Amber Lamps
Moto GP Star
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 14,556
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ceo012384 View Post
So if it essentially transforms the shift shaft from a cantilevered beam to a simply supported beam (two points), that thing fucking better have a bearing pressed into it. I assume it does? If so that's a great idea and a good investment.
Needle type and it was basically designed for your bike in the first place. Check the link.
Amber Lamps is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2008, 10:30 AM   #9
DLIT
Clit Commander
 
DLIT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Las Vegas
Moto: 2012 Ducati 1199 Panigale S
Posts: 4,189
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TIGGER View Post
Needle type and it was basically designed for your bike in the first place. Check the link.
That pic is of the older R6's, not the new body. I've been to 6 track days on my R6 and have had no problems at all with shifting. Maybe on the older R6's though, I dunno.
__________________
Dress for the crash.
Not the ride.

DLIT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-26-2008, 01:12 PM   #10
Amber Lamps
Moto GP Star
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 14,556
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DLIT View Post
That pic is of the older R6's, not the new body. I've been to 6 track days on my R6 and have had no problems at all with shifting. Maybe on the older R6's though, I dunno.
Yea could be...besides,I'm not saying that I was missing shifts or whatnot either. I'm saying that my bike was a good shifter before and now it's a fantastic shifter!
Amber Lamps is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:43 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.