ignorance of some people truly amazes me

Tmall · 01-26-2010, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Well then case closed! If your friend told you it was okay them have at it! In fact, why don't you come on down and bring Rangerscott and who ever else wants to come. I'll take you all out to a few clubs and shot houses I go to. I'm sure that you'll hear black people using the "N" word all night and it'll give you the opportunity to try out your theory. Hey, if anyone gets mad, I'm sure that you telling them that your black Canadian buddy said that it was okay will appease them.

I can't say it enough times, I don't care how many black people tell you that it's okay to call THEM a nigger, nigga, nucka, etc. I don't care how many John Singleton movies or episodes of Dave Chappell you watch, I don't care how many rap songs you listen to...you are not authorized to call me a nigger, period. I know that you want to be able to run the country side calling black people niggers again like in the "good old days"...I'm advising you not to try it, but hey you all seem to feel justified, so have at it. I dare you to walk up to some random group of black people, call them niggers and give them the same argument you're giving me.

Once again, the worst insult in the world can be turned into a endearing pet name when used by the right person, in the right context. That does not mean that anyone gets to use it though. What's so hard to understand about that?

There's this thing called equality. You might have heard of it. It might have a little something to do with your history.

I've even taken the time to look it up for you. http://www.google.ca/search?q=define%3Aequality&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US

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I never said I wanted to call anybody a nigger. I said, if you're ignorant enough to use it, expect ignorance in return.

You can call it "your" word all you want. It doesn't make it any better or worse. You might have this stupid idea that turning the most hate filled word in the english language into a pet name for your friends is somehow showing the man what's what. It's idiotic no matter who uses it.

Are we on the same page yet?

askmrjesus · 01-26-2010, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Tmall

You can call it "your" word all you want. It doesn't make it any better or worse. You might have this stupid idea that turning the most hate filled word in the english language into a pet name for your friends is somehow showing the man what's what. It's idiotic no matter who uses it.

We have a BINGO!!!

JC

Amber Lamps · 01-26-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tmall

There's this thing called equality. You might have heard of it. It might have a little something to do with your history.

I've even taken the time to look it up for you. http://www.google.ca/search?q=define%3Aequality&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US

fficial&client=firefox-a

I never said I wanted to call anybody a nigger. I said, if you're ignorant enough to use it, expect ignorance in return.

You can call it "your" word all you want. It doesn't make it any better or worse. You might have this stupid idea that turning the most hate filled word in the english language into a pet name for your friends is somehow showing the man what's what. It's idiotic no matter who uses it.

Are we on the same page yet?

U huh... That's not what you said and you know it. Look, if you and one of your friends are at the bar and call each other "faggot" does that authorize anyone that overheard the exchange to call you both faggots? THAT is what you are saying and I disagree. Just because I allow a friend, relative, or any random person to demean me does not give you the right to demean me as well.

Context, man. Are you really trying to tell me that you and your friends never call each other names that might have resulted in a fight were it some random stranger? Is this concept this hard to understand? If black people want to allow other black people to call them nigger, don't they have that right? Can't I decide what I'll allow each individual person permission to call me without repercussion? If me and Derf are at Mc Donalds and he flicks a french fry at me, I'll laugh because we are friends. If a hot chick does it, I may smile and go and get her number. If you throw food at me, I'll probably get up and attempt to beat the shit out of you. It's the same thing, I get to decide what my response will be. You don't get to insult me in any way and then decide what I'm allowed to feel or do about it. Dude, you can do whatever you want, as long as you are willing to deal with the consequences of your actions. Now are we on the same page?

Homeslice · 01-26-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

U huh... That's not what you said and you know it. Look, if you and one of your friends are at the bar and call each other "faggot" does that authorize anyone that overheard the exchange to call you both faggots? THAT is what you are saying and I disagree. Just because I allow a friend, relative, or any random person to demean me does not give you the right to demean me as well.

Context, man. Are you really trying to tell me that you and your friends never call each other names that might have resulted in a fight were it some random stranger? Is this concept this hard to understand? If black people want to allow other black people to call them nigger, don't they have that right? Can't I decide what I'll allow each individual person permission to call me without repercussion? If me and Derf are at Mc Donalds and he flicks a french fry at me, I'll laugh because we are friends. If a hot chick does it, I may smile and go and get her number. If you throw food at me, I'll probably get up and attempt to beat the shit out of you. It's the same thing, I get to decide what my response will be. You don't get to insult me in any way and then decide what I'm allowed to feel or do about it. Dude, you can do whatever you want, as long as you are willing to deal with the consequences of your actions. Now are we on the same page?

I agree with everything here. But again, you're talking about a stranger calling another stranger a name. What if 2 white or latino friends want to call each other niggaz? What is the problem with that?

Amber Lamps · 01-26-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

I agree with everything here. But again, you're talking about a stranger calling another stranger a name. What if 2 white or latino friends want to call each other niggaz? What is the problem with that?

Umm...I never said that I have a problem with that, just the opposite. I don't care what you call other people, who does? I have been and only will be concerned with what you call me. If you read my posts, I have repeatedly put my responses in the first person. I do not claim authority to allow or disallow what you can and cannot say to other black people. If anything, I have attempted to explain why some black people allow their compatriots to refer to them as niggers. Again, all I can say is context.

Oh btw, in reference to your example, the only thing about those situations that tends to irritate me, is when the two parties notice that I am within earshot and give me that, "oops sorry" look. Basically, they've just referenced me as a nigger.

Tmall · 01-26-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

U huh... That's not what you said and you know it. Look, if you and one of your friends are at the bar and call each other "faggot" does that authorize anyone that overheard the exchange to call you both faggots? THAT is what you are saying and I disagree. Just because I allow a friend, relative, or any random person to demean me does not give you the right to demean me as well.

Context, man. Are you really trying to tell me that you and your friends never call each other names that might have resulted in a fight were it some random stranger? Is this concept this hard to understand? If black people want to allow other black people to call them nigger, don't they have that right? Can't I decide what I'll allow each individual person permission to call me without repercussion? If me and Derf are at Mc Donalds and he flicks a french fry at me, I'll laugh because we are friends. If a hot chick does it, I may smile and go and get her number. If you throw food at me, I'll probably get up and attempt to beat the shit out of you. It's the same thing, I get to decide what my response will be. You don't get to insult me in any way and then decide what I'm allowed to feel or do about it. Dude, you can do whatever you want, as long as you are willing to deal with the consequences of your actions. Now are we on the same page?

We have one rule in my group of friends. Don't dish it out if you can't take it. I think it applies here as well.

If my friends and I are cutting each other down and you come into the conversation and start doing it to, we wouldn't care. We don't need to come up with a bullshit reason to pick a fight. We don't have chips on our shoulders which means we've been in very few altercations.

To sum it up, we don't need a bullshit reason to be pissed off. We have absolutely nothing to prove.

Amber Lamps · 01-26-2010, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tmall

We have one rule in my group of friends. Don't dish it out if you can't take it. I think it applies here as well.

If my friends and I are cutting each other down and you come into the conversation and start doing it to, we wouldn't care. We don't need to come up with a bullshit reason to pick a fight. We don't have chips on our shoulders which means we've been in very few altercations.

To sum it up, we don't need a bullshit reason to be pissed off. We have absolutely nothing to prove.

See, context again.. Now you're talking about a group of "friends", before you were talking about random people. Dishing it out amongst friends and taking shit from some random dude are two totally different things. Besides, I don't believe that you and your buddies could be hanging out at the bar and some dude can walk up and say, "Hey you faggots get the fuck out of my way!" and you won't care because you all had just been calling each other gay a minute ago... Hmmm then again maybe you would now that I think about it.

marko138 · 01-26-2010, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

See, context again.. Now you're talking about a group of "friends", before you were talking about random people. Dishing it out amongst friends and taking shit from some random dude are two totally different things. Besides, I don't believe that you and your buddies could be hanging out at the bar and some dude can walk up and say, "Hey you faggots get the fuck out of my way!" and you won't care because you all had just been calling each other gay a minute ago... Hmmm then again maybe you would now that I think about it.

I see you are trying like hell to get to 10k posts. Multi-quote FTW, fella.